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    zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 21 May 2021

    zeynep tufekci Retweeted Dr Gabriel Scally

    I just watched this interview in Turkish and it has been mistranslated. Dr. Sahin says they do expect 70-75% protection against symptomatic illness for B.1.617.2 variant, but he does NOT say "up to". He says it's not a hard number as they're still testing and will know more soon.https://twitter.com/GabrielScally/status/1395697659953008643 …

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    Dr Gabriel Scally @GabrielScally
    The head of BioNTec expects their Pfizer vaccine to be "up to" 75% effective against the B.1.617.2 variant (first identified in India). This compares with its 95% effectiveness against the original virus. That is a big difference. https://globalnews.ca/video/rd/61f79f68-b9de-11eb-92de-0242ac110007/?jwsource=twi …
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      2. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 21 May 2021

        Also note that even a slightly reduced efficacy in a vaccine’s ability to prevent mild symptoms does not imply an inability to prevent severe illness or death, and 75% efficacy for any symptoms whatsoever is way higher than anything many had realistically hoped for last year.

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      3. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 21 May 2021

        zeynep tufekci Retweeted zeynep tufekci

        Let me emphasize. This was not a precise number provided in a precise manner. For all I can tell from how it went down, he might’ve meant his estimate for minimum efficacy. Regardless, he immediately said don’t really know yet, and we’ll know better in a few weeks. No news here.https://twitter.com/zeynep/status/1395819531680075778 …

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        zeynep tufekciVerified account @zeynep
        Replying to @gstvbjrnstrnd @mugecevik
        He was pressed by the minister, clearly spoke off-the-cuff, and made it clear he didn’t have a precise number. There never should’ve been a news article in my opinion. Let alone the “up to” insertion, however it happened. We will get numbers and then we can talk about them.
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      1. Jamie Dissent‏ @JamesDissent 21 May 2021
        Replying to @zeynep

        What about the most important % -- efficacy against serious disease/hospitalization/death?

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      1. JJ Andrade 🔰 🍄‏ @Jandrade0112 21 May 2021
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        Whoah, that's for symptomatic illness? Worse than I thought.

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      1. worldclassLFC‏ @kindenough2018 21 May 2021
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        how can they know without real world trials? is this real world trial or in the lab?

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      2. SlingshotPeriwinkle‏ @White_Shadow81 21 May 2021
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        I’m I crazy or is 75% still very good?

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      3. DS‏ @packman7895 21 May 2021
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        75% is still very good in my opinion. I think we got spoiled by the 94/95% from the wild type. dont get me wrong, would like 100% but before we had even 1 vaccine the experts would have been happy with 60%.

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      1. Steve Offiler‏ @s_offiler 21 May 2021
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        It would be nice if all the vaccine conversation focused on absolute (vs. relative) risk reduction, as well as Number Needed to Treat.

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      1. Fyodor‏ @Fyodor32768 21 May 2021
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        Is it possible he is talking about reduction in antibodies not actual protection against illness? He goes from the 25-30 percent number on the antibody testing to the 70-75 percent number.

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      1. Adarsh‏ @AdarshGowda85 21 May 2021
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        What's Efficacy best understood as. 1. Efficacy in avoiding serious infection 2. Efficacy in avoiding serious illness.

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