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    1. Bill Hanage‏Verified account @BillHanage 18 May 2021

      Bill Hanage Retweeted Leana Wen, M.D.

      This is not a good answer. The result will be an inaccurate picture of the spectrum of severity in breakthrough cases, and a failure to capture the full benefits of vaccination in terms of severe infections averted.https://twitter.com/DrLeanaWen/status/1394666390242611203 …

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      Leana Wen, M.D.Verified account @DrLeanaWen
      Great Q @Yamiche: Why has the CDC stopped monitoring breakthrough infections, except in severe #covid19? Answer from @CDCDirector: Asymptomatic or mildly symptomatic people carry very little virus, so focus will be on infections severe enough to cause hospitalization/death.
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      zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 18 May 2021
      Replying to @BillHanage

      Wait, what? That's, well, the "perfect" set up for nonstop freak-outs over breakthroughs that do not deserve panic (positive uncovered during mandatory/frequent testing in colleges/teams etc.) but also waiting till too late to recognize antigenic evolution of consequence?

      11:31 AM - 18 May 2021
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        2. Zain Chagla‏Verified account @zchagla 18 May 2021
          Replying to @zeynep @BillHanage

          While knowing what's driving breakthroughs is of academic interest - in the context of mass vaccination and minimal healthcare utilization - is it overall important? Would it not be more advisable to use the hospitalized sample set to represent community from a resource point?

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        3. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 18 May 2021
          Replying to @zchagla @BillHanage

          It is of academic interest *and* to curb the unnecessary freak-outs. I am ready to pre-file my piece on "no, that vaccine breakthrough cluster at University X that tests all students weekly is not a cause for concern" article for Fall of 2021. I'd rather not write it, tbh.😁

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        2. Armchair epidemiologist (self-certified)‏ @yellingatwind 18 May 2021
          Replying to @zeynep @BillHanage

          I'm fielding lots of concerned questions from friends about why the mortality rate of vaccinated people who get COVID looks like the mortality rate of unvaxed. I try explaining the issues with the denominator but not everyone staying with me... we need to count all infections.

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        1. Matt Saler‏ @mattsaler 18 May 2021
          Replying to @zeynep @BillHanage

          is there any cause for concern with "low virus" breakthrough cases in the context of a parent-child relationship? That is, could daily close proximity at home between vax'd parents & unvax'd small children override the low viral load factor? (— admittedly a little freaked out)

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