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Complex systems, wicked problems. Society, technology, science and more. @UNC professor. @NYTimes columnist. My newsletter is @insight: http://www.theinsight.org 

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    1. Noah Smith  🐇‏Verified account @Noahpinion 17 May 2021
      Replying to @Noahpinion @zeynep

      Noah Smith  🐇 Retweeted Noah Smith  🐇

      Yes, it's a small country, so the comparison is difficult. Bahrain is also very small, but 16 times larger than Seychelles, and we're seeing a similar phenomenon there. So, I am concerned.https://twitter.com/Noahpinion/status/1394443930419142656 …

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      Noah Smith  🐇Verified account @Noahpinion
      Here is Bahrain, also heavily vaccinated with Sinopharm. (56.5% with first doses) pic.twitter.com/ZxMrpVyYwr
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    2. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 17 May 2021
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      You’re again comparing a tiny country with extensive testing capacity and vaccination, with a one billion+ person country with 45% test positivity in some states and a mostly unvaccinated population. Even what a “confirmed case” means in Bahrain is not the same thing as India.

      4 replies 3 retweets 44 likes
    3. Noah Smith  🐇‏Verified account @Noahpinion 17 May 2021
      Replying to @zeynep

      OK. But compare it to any other country, and it's still cause for concern.

      3 replies 0 retweets 8 likes
    4. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 17 May 2021
      Replying to @Noahpinion

      What exactly is the concern?

      2 replies 0 retweets 5 likes
    5. Noah Smith  🐇‏Verified account @Noahpinion 17 May 2021
      Replying to @zeynep

      The concern is that the Sinopharm vaccine is considerably less effective than other vaccines. Remember, this is a vaccine that we never got really good data on to begin with.https://www.reuters.com/business/healthcare-pharmaceuticals/exclusive-who-experts-voice-very-low-confidence-some-sinopharm-covid-19-vaccine-2021-05-05/ …

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    6. Noah Smith  🐇‏Verified account @Noahpinion 17 May 2021
      Replying to @Noahpinion @zeynep

      If it turns out that Sinopharm is substantially less effective than other vaccines, that should affect countries' decision of which vaccine to purchase, and it should make exporting mRNA vaccines a more urgent priority for the U.S.

      5 replies 3 retweets 68 likes
    7. Shamir Karkal‏Verified account @shamir_k 17 May 2021
      Replying to @Noahpinion @zeynep

      mRNA, but also J&J, Novavax, and AstraZeneca - all seem to provide substantially more protection against the new variants than Sinopharm. I'm curious about Sputnik and the Indian Covaxin.

      4 replies 0 retweets 9 likes
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    9. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 17 May 2021
      Replying to @alchemytoday @shamir_k @Noahpinion

      Yeah, I have no idea where he's getting the numbers. Theoretically speaking, an inactivated virus vaccine would have an advantage against variants compared to a spike only one like the mRNA ones. But who knows, till we see some actual data?

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      zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 17 May 2021
      Replying to @TonyBurnetti @alchemytoday and

      Yeah, among the possibilities no? Seychelles fits that scenario, and it's not the worst outcome if that's the case since it would also maybe hold up better against variants (epitopes and all).

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