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    1. Noah Smith  🐇‏Verified account @Noahpinion 17 May 2021

      Here is Seychelles' COVID outbreak compared to India's. 37% of infected people have received both doses of China's Sinopharm vaccine. https://www.cnbc.com/2021/05/13/seychelles-most-vaccinated-nation-on-earth-but-covid-19-has-surged.html … I am concerned about the efficacy of this vaccine.pic.twitter.com/fi8CHn06YU

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    2. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 17 May 2021
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      I wouldn’t compare. One is a tiny ~300k person country; the other is one billion+ people with 45% test positivity in some states. Plus only 57% of that small country received the Sinopharm, rest have AZ. And the hospitalized are overwhelmingly unvaccinated or have comorbidities.

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    3. Noah Smith  🐇‏Verified account @Noahpinion 17 May 2021
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      I saw a figure of 80% hospitalized were not vaccinated OR had comorbidities. That's still a significant amount of breakthroughs, especially if they're using a liberal definition of comorbidities.https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2021/5/12/who-reviewing-seychelles-data-after-fully-vaccinated-get-covid …

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    4. Noah Smith  🐇‏Verified account @Noahpinion 17 May 2021
      Replying to @Noahpinion @zeynep

      In other words, 20% of the people getting hospitalized are vaccinated AND have no comorbidities. Given that most of the patients hospitalized before vaccination had comorbidities, this is not super reassuring to me.https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamanetworkopen/fullarticle/2777028 …

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    5. Noah Smith  🐇‏Verified account @Noahpinion 17 May 2021
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      Yes, it's a small country, so the comparison is difficult. Bahrain is also very small, but 16 times larger than Seychelles, and we're seeing a similar phenomenon there. So, I am concerned.https://twitter.com/Noahpinion/status/1394443930419142656 …

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      Here is Bahrain, also heavily vaccinated with Sinopharm. (56.5% with first doses) pic.twitter.com/ZxMrpVyYwr
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    6. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 17 May 2021
      Replying to @Noahpinion

      You’re again comparing a tiny country with extensive testing capacity and vaccination, with a one billion+ person country with 45% test positivity in some states and a mostly unvaccinated population. Even what a “confirmed case” means in Bahrain is not the same thing as India.

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      zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 17 May 2021
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      Bahrain and Seychelles tell us that Sinopharm has lower efficacy for symptomatic disease but seems to be completely holding up for severity and death, so far. Very good news. India may well suffer the highest deaths, maybe both in absolute and relative terms. Can’t compare imo.

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        2. Japan Biking‏ @JapanBiking 17 May 2021
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          Mostly agree. Not so good news for the unvaccinated, though.

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        3. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 17 May 2021
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          Yeah, it sucks for the billion+ people in India. I can't even bring myself to do the back-of-the envelope calculations, especially since so much is already baked in.

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        1. Alok Gaurav‏ @AlokGaurav16 18 May 2021
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          Deaths per million is still low compared to others

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