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    1. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 14 May 2021

      The CDC mask guidance switched too fast without enough explanation and overlooks key sociological factors for indoor mask mandates—especially to protect workers and the immunocompromised. Better to have announced benchmarks—and kept it up just a bit more. https://www.nytimes.com/2021/05/14/opinion/coronavirus-masks-vaccines.html …pic.twitter.com/wedLXzHlwr

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    2. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 14 May 2021

      I'm on board with the "the vaccinated have lowered their personal risk back to baseline" but there's more to indoor mask mandates than that, including sociological factors. Many just became eligible! Even access isn't fully solved. Not sure about this hurry, this week.

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    3. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 14 May 2021

      Also, I agree we should provide carrots to encourage vaccination. I'm all for carrots! But a vaccination benchmark for lifting all mandates (like North Carolina is doing) is a good carrot. No mandate any more and no checking doesn't seem like a carrot to me, but the opposite.

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    4. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 14 May 2021

      zeynep tufekci Retweeted Alexis Wainwright

      Eek, correction. Before the CDC change, North Carolina had a sensible policy, saying the mandates would all be lifted when two thirds of adults had at least one dose. One could quibble with the exact number, but it was a goal and a benchmark. Now all gone.https://twitter.com/AWainwrightTV/status/1393318801597509636 …

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      Alexis WainwrightVerified account @AWainwrightTV
      Some states are starting to lift their mask mandates following the CDC mask rules for vaccinated people. Those include: Maryland, Virginia, North Carolina, Ohio and Michigan.
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      zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 14 May 2021

      And I'm very much on the vaccines are amazing side of this: I think the data on individual protection and transmission — including against variants — is excellent and very encouraging. But mandates have sociological dynamics and benchmarks are better than abrupt changes.

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        2. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 14 May 2021

          I would’ve been in favor of this shift a little later if it had been pre-announced and tied to reasonable benchmarks, and explained better. If nothing else, there are workers who are immunocompromised. The poor, largely minority essential workers have suffered disproportionately.

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        3. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 14 May 2021

          zeynep tufekci Retweeted Caitlin Rivers, PhD

          This is the timeline in many states. Would’ve been better to give some time for this, and a heads up.https://twitter.com/cmyeaton/status/1393347850088718339 …

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          Caitlin Rivers, PhDVerified account @cmyeaton
          No masks required in Maryland as of tomorrow. Yet people who got vaccinated on the very first day of open eligibility in MD would not be fully protected yet. Why not wait to give people who want to get vaccinated a chance? https://www.baltimoresun.com/coronavirus/bs-md-hogan-masks-friday-20210514-jgw7bvj2qbcnlnczn4xwz6beda-story.html …
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        4. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 14 May 2021

          zeynep tufekci Retweeted Bryce

          See this chart: you can see how fast exponential decay can work to our advantage. Throwing everything at it at once really quickens the process on the way down (the opposite of the terrible effect of even small delays on the way up).https://twitter.com/brycesub/status/1393319777318359045 …

          zeynep tufekci added,

          Bryce @brycesub
          Replying to @zeynep
          I was hoping that our case rate per capita would be a lot closer to Israel's or the UK's before we dropped indoor mask mandate. @zeynep's point about exponential decay is spot on. pic.twitter.com/aWtZ5n2oh8
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        5. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 15 May 2021

          zeynep tufekci Retweeted zeynep tufekci

          Let me repeat something that’s misunderstood. “Sociological reasons” does NOT mean falsely exaggerate risk to the vaccinated. Actually the opposite. (CDC should be clearer on transmission beyond “reduced”—too vague). It means give people time to prepare, and consider enforcement.https://twitter.com/zeynep/status/1393644139825205253 …

          zeynep tufekci added,

          zeynep tufekciVerified account @zeynep
          Replying to @CharlesVanThune @BrendanNyhan @DaveAHopkins
          It takes about two weeks for first dose to start having effects. Six weeks for full process. The polls show especially the working poor have a larger share of “would like to get vaccinated but haven’t arranged it yet”, including time off for side effects. They got zero warning.
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        6. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 19 May 2021

          Update: @chrislhayes posed the request for clarification to the public in my NYT oped to Dr. Fauci and he said yes, that is true. (FWIW, I've no problem with that message or conclusion; however I wanted it to be spelled out explicitly. "Reduced" is vague). https://www.msnbc.com/transcripts/transcript-all-chris-hayes-5-17-21-n1267740 …pic.twitter.com/5kTd3DcbPJ

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        2. Zoë McLaren, PhD‏ @ZoeMcLaren 14 May 2021
          Replying to @zeynep

          Weren’t you criticizing the update from 2 weeks ago as being far too timid? With exponential decay and slowing vax rates it could be a long time before meeting benchmarks. More notice yes, but this needed to happen at some point.

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        3. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 14 May 2021
          Replying to @ZoeMcLaren

          It was too timid in recommending masks outdoors for the vaccinated (why?). And two weeks later, it's now no masks anywhere for the vaccinated (ignoring the sociology of it, my concern). Also what changed in two weeks for this big a shift? They should explain.

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        1. Nancy Bruning‏ @nancercize 14 May 2021
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          They fail to take into consideration the "the vaccinated" are people. The "unvaccinated" are also people. We, the people, shouldn't be expected to turn on a dime with no good explanation.

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