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    1. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 14 May 2021

      Huge deal. Some very eminent virologists, including Dr. Baric who worked with the lab in Wuhan, have published a statement that both zoonotic origin and lab accident are "viable" as origin. (Social media claims aren't scientific consensus, part zillion). https://science.sciencemag.org/content/372/6543/694.1 …pic.twitter.com/jhJl8IAyBG

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    2. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 14 May 2021

      Note they are *not* saying we know but are clearly saying demotion of lab link as less or unlikely is not supported by data yet. So often a Narrative™ emerges here that experts think A or B. Reality: many eminent experts are too busy for Twitter, and some questions are complex.pic.twitter.com/bwKokV34pf

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      zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 14 May 2021

      Finally, I appreciate this. Questioning Chinese government statements or lab safety or a particular kind of research is not racist *by itself.* That is a great disservice to China's own scientists and dissidents. Racism exists, but opposite of it isn't can't question governments.pic.twitter.com/uAe3QlkNhL

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        1. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 14 May 2021

          Do note that there are many possibilities that combine some of these theories (zoonotic origin *and* lab screw-up, for example). Personally, besides "I don't know", the only one I can discount is the bioweapon research: that makes no sense. Rest: needs a genuine investigation.

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        1. Kit Miller‏ @millerkit 14 May 2021
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          What do you think about the Nicholas Wade piece?https://thebulletin.org/2021/05/the-origin-of-covid-did-people-or-nature-open-pandoras-box-at-wuhan/ …

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        1. DoctorMillennial, PhD‏ @Doctor_MPhD 14 May 2021
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          It's a strange situation to say that they may have engaged in these experiments, deserve tremendous scrutiny, may have ensnarled the world in the virus, maybe should stop GoF, BSL-4 work. But. At least some scientific truth snuck out through their smothering authoritarianism.

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        1. Boz Handy Bosma‏ @bbbozzz 14 May 2021
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          Sincere question - did someone say it was racist - by itself or in combination with something else?

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        1. Not a fan of fascism‏ @CoadyBj 14 May 2021
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          Exactly. I think this is a problem that people who aren’t racist rarely stumble over. It’s analogy can be found with the way some white people regard POC, thinking that they have to proclaim they don’t see color (of course they do); acting like they can’t recall a person’s race

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        1. Alexander Soifer‏ @AlexanderSoifer 14 May 2021
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          True. But sharing was delayed and thus cost innumerable lives.

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        2. Richard H. Ebright‏Verified account @R_H_Ebright 14 May 2021
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          The governments of the US and France endorsed, supported, funded, and assisted the high-risk lab work in question. Any investigation is not an investigation of China's decisions and actions, but, rather, an investigation of the international community's decisions and actions.

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        1. Skriver‏ @TheRealSkriver 15 May 2021
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          This has been an oft repeated issue. Too many are unable to differentiate criticism of the Chinese Government with racism. Also, and more unfortunately, too many are unable to differentiate the actions of the Chinese Government from the citizens of China.

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        1. The Monarch Diaries‏ @monarchdiaries 19 May 2021
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          Hugely important. In fact China has a cadre of absolutely incredible (and ethical!) scientists and physicians. If you listen, they’re trying to talk. They’re also in many cases being subjected to “rectification”. Overall, bashing China is worse than useless.

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