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    zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 14 May 2021

    Huge deal. Some very eminent virologists, including Dr. Baric who worked with the lab in Wuhan, have published a statement that both zoonotic origin and lab accident are "viable" as origin. (Social media claims aren't scientific consensus, part zillion). https://science.sciencemag.org/content/372/6543/694.1 …pic.twitter.com/jhJl8IAyBG

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      2. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 14 May 2021

        Note they are *not* saying we know but are clearly saying demotion of lab link as less or unlikely is not supported by data yet. So often a Narrative™ emerges here that experts think A or B. Reality: many eminent experts are too busy for Twitter, and some questions are complex.pic.twitter.com/bwKokV34pf

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      3. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 14 May 2021

        Finally, I appreciate this. Questioning Chinese government statements or lab safety or a particular kind of research is not racist *by itself.* That is a great disservice to China's own scientists and dissidents. Racism exists, but opposite of it isn't can't question governments.pic.twitter.com/uAe3QlkNhL

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      4. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 14 May 2021

        Do note that there are many possibilities that combine some of these theories (zoonotic origin *and* lab screw-up, for example). Personally, besides "I don't know", the only one I can discount is the bioweapon research: that makes no sense. Rest: needs a genuine investigation.

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      2. Little guys' SOS‏ @LgSOS 14 May 2021
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        Zoonotic origin much less likely.

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      3. Spapegghi‏ @peggyhill755 14 May 2021
        Replying to @LgSOS @zeynep

        Based on?

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      2. Mr. Penguin‏ @SalomonBeckmann 14 May 2021
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        It was an American biologist who invented the “gain of function” process used in the Wuhan labs.

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      2. Daniel Batt‏ @DanielJBatt 14 May 2021
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        But no evidence of enhancement?

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      3. Peje‏ @Pejegordo 14 May 2021
        Replying to @DanielJBatt @zeynep

        If enhancement was done by artificial selection (breeding), evidence would be very hard to find (since that's just a natural process accelerated by man). You could find evidence that it was *not* enhanced (by finding a close relative in the wild). But that hasn't been found yet.

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      2. Stephen Vakil‏ @TAsunder 14 May 2021
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        Semantically “viable” seems consistent with what @K_G_Andersen said? (True?) Cannot be entirely ruled out but unlikely. No origin definitively proven. More research needed.

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      3. Jon Seymour‏ @jonseymour 15 May 2021
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        "not plausible" has quite a different meaning to "viable"

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