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Complex systems, wicked problems. Society, technology, science and more. @UNC professor. @NYTimes columnist. My newsletter is @insight: http://www.theinsight.org 

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    1. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 10 May 2021

      The other part is how causal inference differs by field. Clinical practice rightly uses randomized trials (crucial for drugs and vaccines) but the clear point that the droplet theory didn't do a good job explaining the world as we observed it didn't get the attention it deserved.

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    2. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 10 May 2021

      Overlooked but key. Nothing about transmission in this pandemic makes sense except in the light of overdispersion. It alternates between contagious clusters and little to no transmission. This makes causal inference difficult. It fries our assumptions. https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2020/09/k-overlooked-variable-driving-pandemic/616548/ …pic.twitter.com/nygPqC3yzn

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    3. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 10 May 2021

      zeynep tufekci Retweeted Iris Pangburn

      Yes, around the world, to this day. And the constant overuse of bleach etc. is not just a waste of time and resources, it's genuinely unhealthy. "Stop over-disinfecting and start ventilating" has to be a loud campaign, led by WHO & public health agencies.https://twitter.com/Calamitatis/status/1391733545270497282?s=20 …

      zeynep tufekci added,

      Iris Pangburn @Calamitatis
      Replying to @junrussell @Fundmasstransit @zeynep
      Yes, but on the other hand an enormous waste of work-time & resources. Consider the volume of disposable gloves, the plastic containers of lysol & so forth, the crippling requirements of daycare centers, etc. A more timely update could have limited that.
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    4. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 10 May 2021

      zeynep tufekci Retweeted Ted Pedersen

      Yes. Some of what we can do is easy/free. Some of it is not, and requires resources and trade-offs (sealed building are energy efficient). Filtering can be an option when dilution is not. Challenge is very real, but still should start from the right place.https://twitter.com/SeeTedTalk/status/1391739250291486727 …

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      Ted Pedersen @SeeTedTalk
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      this all makes a lot of sense. but a lot of schools and universities, for example, are in buildings that don't have great ventiliation, and improving that is costly and not likely to happen. so what do we do?
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    5. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 10 May 2021

      zeynep tufekci Retweeted Pieter Peach

      Yep. Overdispersed things can't be studied with methods not suitable for them. Example: information provided by non-events is asymmetric compared to info from events. Cluster-randomized trials—say for source control—can't easily get statistical power. Etc.https://twitter.com/DrPieterPeach/status/1391741852852756486 …

      zeynep tufekci added,

      Pieter Peach @DrPieterPeach
      “It fries our assumptions” Great way to put it @zeynep. Explains a fundamental misstep, i.e. using a mean R0 of 2.5 to argue against aerosol transmission by ignoring the head of the long tail distribution curve. Hiding the important data away in the mean. https://twitter.com/zeynep/status/1391736001475796996 … pic.twitter.com/kXoPTvE1HN
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    6. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 10 May 2021

      zeynep tufekci Retweeted Prof. Akiko Iwasaki

      Let me highlight that excellent work has been happening all year, as well. Resistance to relevant expertise was a problem, but many key papers from this year are co-authored by people across disciplines. One interesting interdisciplinary panel today.https://twitter.com/VirusesImmunity/status/1391751814840717316 …

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      Prof. Akiko IwasakiVerified account @VirusesImmunity
      I am excited to participate in a panel to discuss indoor air & COVID transmission. I will focus on the impact of indoor environment on host immunity. Eager to learn from other speakers - @linseymarr @WBahnfleth @staylorvt @AdrianoAguzzi @LAPI_epfl https://smw.ch/online-event  pic.twitter.com/EvxPGocvAu
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    7. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 10 May 2021

      zeynep tufekci Retweeted Linsey Marr

      Excellent, rapid progress from the CDC, clarifying the tables that came with the aerosol update.https://twitter.com/linseymarr/status/1391863551132897285 …

      zeynep tufekci added,

      Linsey MarrVerified account @linseymarr
      Excellent! CDC removed a table from this page that mishandled the risk of transmission beyond 6'. It can easily happen in a poorly ventilated indoor environment, where people are not wearing masks. https://twitter.com/kprather88/status/1391854554702958593 …
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    8. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 11 May 2021

      I recently went through the same chasing down of known outdoor case percentage. Same conclusion. As @mugecevik explains, "less than 10%" is misleading. Reported numbers of confirmed cases are around 0.1% so way lower than 10% even assuming undercounting. https://www.nytimes.com/2021/05/11/briefing/outdoor-covid-transmission-cdc-number.html …pic.twitter.com/1Zr5Iuqj54

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    9. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 11 May 2021

      Seeing so many wondering if confirmed outdoor transmission can really be that low, compared with indoors. Yes. This confusion is another loss of being so late to acknowledge the key role of aerosols: the epidemiological record shows exactly what acknowledging aerosols predicts.

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    10. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 13 May 2021

      zeynep tufekci Retweeted The Hill

      Yep, the problem with gyms — enclosed spaces where people engage in activities that we know greatly increase aerosol production — is that we aren't sufficiently good at spraying the weights with disinfectants. (ht @slowphotograph2)https://twitter.com/thehill/status/1392909521819996165 …

      zeynep tufekci added,

      The HillVerified account @thehill
      Bipartisan Senate bill introduced to give gyms $30 billion in pandemic relief http://hill.cm/5vxzeRl  pic.twitter.com/b46xkUtNV4
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      zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 13 May 2021

      zeynep tufekci Retweeted

      This is why the whole lack of clear communication and understanding around aerosol transmission—and the ensuing dominant visualization of COVID-19 mitigation as disinfecting, and its breach as people outdoors/beaches—matters. It makes things worse. https://twitter.com/dankrutka/status/1392913606522646538 …

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        1. Hi! My name is...Chris  👋  🌹‏ @cwark1 13 May 2021
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          and at a university! This is so frustrating. It's hard enough to convince administrators of science application realities, but when the misconceptions are supported by their own academic experts, it's impossible!

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        1. bibbleco  🇪🇺  🇬🇧‏ @bibbleco 13 May 2021
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          Wow, "transmission is almost entirely indoors" hasn't got through yet?

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        2. Jonathan Meier‏ @jonathanwmeier 13 May 2021
          Replying to @zeynep

          Do you have any perspectives on the recent yankees infections?

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        3. Sulid Fan Account‏ @BoobyJargon 14 May 2021
          Replying to @jonathanwmeier @zeynep

          Eight individuals tested positive after likely being exposed to same unvaccinated index case. Seven have been asymptomatic and the other only briefly had minor symptoms Sounds like the vaccines are working as designed

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        1. Khavren‏ @Khavren 13 May 2021
          Replying to @zeynep

          The part that makes me maddest and saddest is that I learned about areasol spread from a kids cartoon called storybots with Woopi Goldberg and that immediately informed me about how to protect myself

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        2. Michael‏ @container_1 13 May 2021
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          @threader_app compile

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          Sorry the author has restricted the access to their content.

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        2. Daniel DePaolo‏ @daniel_depaolo 16 May 2021
          Replying to @zeynep

          Here's another example of misguided covid-19 policy from Ontario, Canada. It's likely the most stark example of ignoring the science of covid transmission (aerosols) at the moment.https://abcnews.go.com/Health/wireStory/canadas-largest-province-ban-outdoor-recreation-77669180 …

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        3. Tanja Maier‏ @tanjamaier17 16 May 2021
          Replying to @daniel_depaolo @zeynep

          Was in Ontario recently. It was so odd that many shops ask you to hand sanitize before entering. Some require staff to wear masks + face shields + disposable gloves. The message that covid doesn't spread on surfaces seems to have been missed. Ditto for safety of outdoors.

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