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Complex systems, wicked problems. Society, technology, science and more. @UNC professor. @NYTimes columnist. My newsletter is @insight: http://www.theinsight.org 

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    1. Ben Thompson‏Verified account @benthompson 7 May 2021

      We have, over the last year, witnessed a modern version of denying Galileo. “Believe science” ought never be conflated with “believe experts”, who got SARS-CoV-2 transmission completely wrong. From @zeynep:https://www.nytimes.com/2021/05/07/opinion/coronavirus-airborne-transmission.html …

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      zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 8 May 2021
      Replying to @benthompson

      In fairness, I'd say more of what happened is those who conflated "believe science" with "believe this set of experts [ahem, us] rather than the other set". Plus, of course the usual disciplinary divides.

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        2. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 8 May 2021
          Replying to @Aelkus @benthompson

          Yeah. If you were there from the beginning, you do see people who get some right, get some wrong but are open either way. Some are very senior, too! But then there are "teams" whose members can be consistently wrong but rarely concede, and just claim other [team] aren't experts.

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        2. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 8 May 2021
          Replying to @zeynep @benthompson

          Plus the social media is fueling a "teams" dynamic, where track records of one's own team members can be totally overlooked. I don't begrudge people being wrong, or even consistently wrong, given the situation, but it seems to be rarely acknowledged or impact one's evaluation.

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        3. Ben Thompson‏Verified account @benthompson 8 May 2021
          Replying to @zeynep

          I’m just trying to align myself with your team @zeynep!

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        2. Adam Diorio‏ @jorgos7 8 May 2021
          Replying to @zeynep @benthompson

          It's just shocking people keep blaming the people who were trying to follow the science more than those who showed blatant disregard. Just shocking.

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        3. Adam Diorio‏ @jorgos7 8 May 2021
          Replying to @jorgos7 @zeynep @benthompson

          We had a president who claimed it was going away...but yea, the real "problem" was the people who who were at least trying to be responsible. Come on.

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        1. Gin  🙄 Your **should** is not **my** should.  🙄‏ @2ysur2ysub 8 May 2021
          Replying to @zeynep @benthompson

          We keep looking at individual heroes with access to public relations agencies to solve the problem; everything and everyone else is sidelined. I hope everyone reads your article. I’ll be reading it again to make sure I understand. I started wearing 3 masks on March 17, 2020.

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        2. Sachin Deshpande‏ @sdesh 8 May 2021
          Replying to @zeynep @benthompson

          Great article/points.I also wonder if bureaucracy played a role. The CDC/WHO processes were just not able to manage something this viral. And when they were caught flat-footed (and wrong), they became defensive. Then they minorly acknowledged it. Finally fully acknowledged it.

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        3. topherius‏ @topherius1 8 May 2021
          Replying to @sdesh @zeynep @benthompson

          Yeah. Purely anecdotal, but I worked at the CDC before med school, now am a physician/scientist. The culture at the CDC was very bureaucratic - very different than what I’ve since become accustomed to in both medicine and science.

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        2. Jason Crawford‏ @jasoncrawford 8 May 2021
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          Jason Crawford Retweeted Jason Crawford

          And often the “wrong experts” are the ones in a position of authority. IMO last year was a failure of authority rather than one of expertisehttps://twitter.com/jasoncrawford/status/1246838637926289408 …

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          Jason Crawford @jasoncrawford
          It wasn't the “experts” who got it wrong. It was the authorities. Epidemiologists, virologists, etc. saw the threat. Those who have set themselves up as our protectors did not act. https://twitter.com/mattmireles/status/1246627222925922306 …
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        3. Jason Crawford‏ @jasoncrawford 8 May 2021
          Replying to @jasoncrawford @zeynep @benthompson

          Jason Crawford Retweeted Jason Crawford

          And I think the reason is explained in @slatestarcodex's post linked herehttps://twitter.com/jasoncrawford/status/1360061211342118918 …

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          Jason Crawford @jasoncrawford
          These quotes from Fauci lend weight to @slatestarcodex's theory about “legible expertise” https://astralcodexten.substack.com/p/webmd-and-the-tragedy-of-legible … https://twitter.com/HelenBranswell/status/1359906767417843720 …
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