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    zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 3 May 2021

    zeynep tufekci Retweeted Alec MacGillis

    I suspect these will change but even without vaccination, outdoor spread was rarer and confined to prolonged, close contact (under one's control) and people can get vaccinated and/or wear a mask themselves. Mandates make sense when risk is high and individual protections limited.https://twitter.com/AlecMacGillis/status/1389017564421009410 …

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    Alec MacGillisVerified account @AlecMacGillis
    Brookline MA, the second-most educated town in the country, has decided to overrule the CDC and keep an outdoor mask mandate in place: https://boston.cbslocal.com/2021/05/01/coronavirus-brookline-keep-outdoor-mask-mandate-in-place/amp/?__twitter_impression=true …
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      2. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 3 May 2021

        The bigger issue is mandates also signal and educate about risk. If misinformed, it's harder direct resources to vulnerable populations under real risk, i.e. how we spent a year worrying about beaches while workers—many poorer and minority—disproportionately suffered and died.

        4 replies 43 retweets 327 likes
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      3. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 3 May 2021

        So it's tempting to say who cares, but when in this context—a year of shutting down outdoor access, ignoring risks to workers while calling them "essential" and blaming the victims while shaming people for safe activities—it matters. If the rest weren't there, yeah who cares.

        3 replies 26 retweets 267 likes
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      4. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 3 May 2021

        I'm not really concerned if individuals chose to be more cautious—and we should not judge, and everyone has their own circumstances, none of our business. I'm concerned because we've been shutting down the safest activities for a whole year, and not supporting those at real risk.

        10 replies 53 retweets 417 likes
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      5. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 3 May 2021

        zeynep tufekci Retweeted Michael Daniels

        Clearer on the news. The key for me is that I’m still seeing all sorts of outdoor stuff being banned and *curfews* around the world. (DC just banned *standing* along with dancing in outdoor weddings if I am reading their order correctly).https://twitter.com/mdaniels5757/status/1389230002043072516 …

        zeynep tufekci added,

        Michael Daniels @mdaniels5757
        Replying to @zeynep
        The quoted tweet is misleading. Brookline is just not rescinding the order immediately without input from their Advisory Council on Public Health (https://www.brooklinema.gov/653/Advisory-Council-on-Public-Health …), which meets in a couple of weeks.
        4 replies 7 retweets 93 likes
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      2. Henry‏ @Fdr1942 3 May 2021
        Replying to @zeynep

        The ignored point: there is next to no enforcement of outdoor mask mandates esp. in suburbs as people walk along the street It's a complete bugaboo issue; 99% of people navigate this through social etiquette / norms (i.e. cross the street if not comfortable); not govt edict

        1 reply 0 retweets 7 likes
      3. Henry‏ @Fdr1942 3 May 2021
        Replying to @Fdr1942 @zeynep

        The most bizarre claim is people need the removal of an not-enforced outdoor mandate as "incentive" for the vaccine...LOL only political Twitter can think of such things. "Well if I get the vaccine, the non-enforced outdoor mandate will go away" literally is how no one thinks

        1 reply 0 retweets 12 likes
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      2. Jody Shenn‏ @JodyShenn 3 May 2021
        Replying to @zeynep

        I’m sorry but can we just get to fucking June before we worry about the masks outside????

        2 replies 0 retweets 1 like
      3. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 3 May 2021
        Replying to @JodyShenn

        No because we spent a year misinforming people about risk, and the consequences have been dire.

        2 replies 3 retweets 128 likes
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      2. Robert Dawson‏ @RobbDawson4 3 May 2021
        Replying to @zeynep

        Of course it will change. Why do people feel the need to attack others for being cautious?

        3 replies 0 retweets 1 like
      3. George Purcell‏ @gpurcell 3 May 2021
        Replying to @RobbDawson4 @zeynep

        Because their caution is irrational bordering on pathological and it is significantly retarding our return to normalcy.

        2 replies 0 retweets 1 like
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