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    1. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 1 May 2021

      zeynep tufekci Retweeted Daniel Uhlfelder

      It’s been more than a year since I wrote my first article on why outdoors is much safer and we should open parks/beaches to help lessen deaths. Not a single known beach cluster. Outdoor transmission is very low outside of prolonged close contact—kinda how he harasses strangers.https://twitter.com/DWUhlfelderLaw/status/1388464992379445248 …

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      Daniel Uhlfelder @DWUhlfelderLaw
      One year anniversary of emergence of Florida Grim Reaper! pic.twitter.com/Iuxdp4U5Bb
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    2. Rachel Bitecofer  📈 🔭 🍌‏Verified account @RachelBitecofer 1 May 2021
      Replying to @zeynep

      True, but we do know the crowded FL beach scenes led to/leads to increased transmission. I'll give you that normal beaching is just fine- which is why the ONE THING I did last summer was take my Little to our locals-only beach spot where there was plenty of distance.

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      zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 1 May 2021
      Replying to @RachelBitecofer

      No we don’t. If you mean auxiliary activities like indoor bars, by all means go there. Is there even a single beach transmission? That air and wind and UV? That space?

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        2. Evan Ashcroft‏ @crashtacky 1 May 2021
          Replying to @zeynep @RachelBitecofer

          With respect, I'm not sure the bars are "auxiliary" to beach attendance.

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        3. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 1 May 2021
          Replying to @crashtacky @RachelBitecofer

          Many beaches are in large cities where people live. If you want to advocate for closing bars, by all means. Go ahead. Harassing strangers engaging in the safest possible recreation in a pandemic because of assumed and not even mentioned auxiliary activity is harmful to health.

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        2. Meeks‏ @FLman1980 1 May 2021
          Replying to @zeynep @RachelBitecofer

          How would you know if there was? Who is doing that kind of extensive contact tracing...and I’m not saying you’re wrong... I’m saying how do you know?

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        3. Chris‏ @WhoTopher 2 May 2021
          Replying to @FLman1980 @zeynep @RachelBitecofer

          I recall a press conference in Orange County with FL Dept of Health, granted no beaches, when asked about cases from theme parks, said none, but admitted no contact tracing because it was just too hard. Do they even really WANT to trace? We won't know infection sources in FL.

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        1. Rachel Bitecofer  📈 🔭 🍌‏Verified account @RachelBitecofer 1 May 2021
          Replying to @zeynep

          prob is, the same kids that crammed themselves together on the beach, also crammed themselves into bars, restaurants, hotel rooms, & house parties. I'd assume the "beach-cramming only" subset is fairly low. Again, you are 100% right that general beaching, w space, is fine

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        2. Gabriel Schirmbeck‏ @gabriel_schirm 2 May 2021
          Replying to @zeynep @RachelBitecofer

          https://youtu.be/Xqxvp0pCKh4  This happened in a local beach here in Brazil. 2 weeks later we had an insane cases and deaths spike I understand that this is an extreme case, and not regular beach activity. But people still though outdoor = safe

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        3. DL‏ @Goldbirdwing 2 May 2021
          Replying to @gabriel_schirm @zeynep @RachelBitecofer

          Didn't work from home, walked in central London since the start of covid as a pandemic. Had/have to deal with the selfish, entitled, and at times aggressive, unwilling to social distance on pavements. Now it's the ones personally offended by my mask wearing outdoors. This beach:pic.twitter.com/XZNpG0yFdq

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        2. Travis McGee‏ @procrastin 2 May 2021
          Replying to @CarolForden @zeynep @RachelBitecofer

          Her overly broad opinion also dismisses the other activities associated with beach crowds: beach bars and restaurants. Especially applicable to FL.

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