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    1. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 28 Apr 2021

      New: I do welcome CDC's update on outdoors and masks, but it was still overly confusing, too binary and timid. Our mitigations should move from precautionary to targeted as we learn more and, crucially, we need to properly explain the whys and wherefores. https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2021/04/cdc-outdoor-mask-pandemic/618739/ …pic.twitter.com/idmyt6716r

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    2. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 28 Apr 2021

      In the piece, I spell out my own interpretation of what the guidelines (in their totality) imply about CDC's assumptions, and where I think things stand, but it would be really, really helpful if they spelled it out explicitly, and also resolve the various inconsistencies.

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    3. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 28 Apr 2021

      It's a common assumption that too much information will confuse the public. I don't even agree, but let's say there is a line for too much detail. However, too little *explanation* can be even more confusing and disempowering because a yes/no usually doesn't cover all contexts.

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    4. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 28 Apr 2021

      Ah. I had not seen this, but @Trevornoah ranted about it last night, apparently. (ht @wmyfowlkes) "Too complicated" and "It's unreadable", he says. "Even if you are vaccinated, you can only do two more things without a mask on", etc. Yeah, he's right.https://youtu.be/nctWidPTtwI?t=203 …

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    5. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 28 Apr 2021

      When I say something is not being understood correctly, a lot of people, including my friends, will say "I understood it" and that I'm being overly-critical. It's different for people who already understand the science, or in the thick of it and following everything.

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    6. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 28 Apr 2021

      I think the Trevor Noah rant below nails it, but you should have seen how much time it took for Atlantic's fact-checkers (Who are good at this! And do this every day!) to try to confirm the chart's various interpretations.https://youtu.be/nctWidPTtwI?t=204 …

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    7. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 28 Apr 2021

      I do outline how I think the rules could be simplified, broadened to match the evidence base, be explained succinctly, and consider both transmission characteristics of the virus and the sociology mask wearing. But the key point is we need clear answers. https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2021/04/cdc-outdoor-mask-pandemic/618739/ …pic.twitter.com/v37gc1E4Ry

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      zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 28 Apr 2021

      zeynep tufekci Retweeted Torr Leonard

      And why are we still doing this? There needs to be loud and clear communication about all this.https://twitter.com/torrHL/status/1387497475905265665 …

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      LAUSD schools finally reopened but the kids still aren’t allowed to touch the playground equipment. So stupid. pic.twitter.com/OdoVeo7O8Z
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        2. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 28 Apr 2021

          I get a lot of "why not an abundance of caution"? I'm temperamentally and intellectually on the "precautionary principal is crucial" and "exponentials are cruel" side but after more than a year of data, we can end up misleading about indoor risks through unwarranted caution.

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        3. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 28 Apr 2021

          zeynep tufekci Retweeted Eric Topol

          And here’s a BMJ debate on outdoor masks alone, with @mugecevik @sdbaral @javid_lab and me.https://twitter.com/EricTopol/status/1387537518338338816 …

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          Eric TopolVerified account @EricTopol
          An outdoor mask debate @bmj_latest https://www.bmj.com/content/373/bmj.n1036 … @javid_lab @mugecevik @zeynep @sdbaral https://twitter.com/EricTopol/status/1387503825666277377 … pic.twitter.com/3QZOjmdFrL
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        4. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 29 Apr 2021

          I want to post our BMJ debate on outdoor masks, with @javid_lab @mugecevik @sdbaral Highlights from @EricTopol.😀 This was written last week—before the many recent pieces: that's why they're not referenced! I wish there was more space for such discussions! http://bmj.com/content/373/bmj.n1036 …pic.twitter.com/VkP5MBT555

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        5. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 29 Apr 2021

          In the above BMJ piece, we do have more details about the sociology and trade-offs of mask mandates for this phase. For the earlier phase, see our PNAS paper. For aerosol/mitigation connection: our piece in The Lancet is also below. https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(21)00869-2/fulltext …https://www.pnas.org/content/118/4/e2014564118/tab-article-info …

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        6. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 29 Apr 2021

          As our BMJ piece with @mugecevik and @sdbaral highlights focusing on low but visible risks (outdoors/beaches) is a serious threat to equity and effective mitigations. Most of those infected, sick and dying around the world are poorer frontline workers in workplaces. Indoors.

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        2. Alissa Walker‏Verified account @awalkerinLA 28 Apr 2021
          Replying to @zeynep

          They're reopening next weekhttps://spectrumnews1.com/ca/la-east/education/2021/04/28/lausd-playgrounds-set-to-reopen …

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        3. Torr Leonard‏ @torrHL 28 Apr 2021
          Replying to @awalkerinLA @zeynep

          “District personnel will use electrostatic misters and approved disinfectant to regularly sanitize playground equipment, the same procedure used to clean frequently touched surfaces in a school,” Why???

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        1. mcbc  🇺🇸 🗽‏ @mcbc 28 Apr 2021
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          @torrHL They open next week.

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        1. Debbie‏ @DNS107 28 Apr 2021
          Replying to @zeynep @MrJonCryer

          Kids in our district are able to use them. We make sure hands are washed beforehand and immediately as recess is over. Gotta find a way to bring some normalcy back to the kiddos.

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        1. Willa D'Peapole‏ @Fernmonkey 28 Apr 2021
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          The reason we're still doing this is a vague sense that it's "unfair" on indoor recreation like gyms and bars and malls if outdoor recreation is unrestricted. It isn't based on evidence.

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