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Complex systems, wicked problems. Society, technology, science and more. @UNC professor. @NYTimes columnist. My newsletter is @insight: http://www.theinsight.org 

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    1. Dawn Kopecki‏Verified account @Dawn_Kopecki 23 Apr 2021
      Replying to @zeynep

      I’m sorry you don’t agree with the study’s conclusions, but if you read the full article you will see that the headline and article are accurate. That is what they told us.

      9 replies 0 retweets 1 like
    2. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 23 Apr 2021
      Replying to @Dawn_Kopecki

      Maybe you should talk to some people who've been publishing in this very field for years? Even if they told you that, it is a dangerous, misleading headline to put there that you should check with others (not me!). This is not some empty science field.

      1 reply 0 retweets 24 likes
    3. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 23 Apr 2021
      Replying to @zeynep @Dawn_Kopecki

      It's not okay to put such a big claim in the headline with nobody else consulted even if, as you say, two MIT professors who have not published in this field before (with all due respect to their model) told you that's what their study means: that distance doesn't matter at all.

      2 replies 0 retweets 14 likes
    4. Dawn Kopecki‏Verified account @Dawn_Kopecki 23 Apr 2021
      Replying to @zeynep

      I think you need to read the entire story, not just the headline, to see what the authors of the study said themselves about their conclusions.

      2 replies 0 retweets 2 likes
    5. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 23 Apr 2021
      Replying to @Dawn_Kopecki

      That headline is misleading and dangerous, and there are an increasing number of scientists who've published in this very field telling you this in this thread and elsewhere. I read the article, it does NOT REFLECT the well-mixed assumption which is crucial.

      1 reply 0 retweets 11 likes
    6. Dawn Kopecki‏Verified account @Dawn_Kopecki 23 Apr 2021
      Replying to @zeynep

      "The distancing isn't helping you that much and it's also giving you a false sense of security because you're as safe at 6 feet as you are at 60 feet if you're indoors. Everyone in that space is at roughly the same risk, actually," Bazant said.

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    7. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 23 Apr 2021
      Replying to @Dawn_Kopecki

      You can't just run with that, without checking with other scientists in the field on whether that's a justified conclusion and headline, with all due respect to the math model with a well-mixed room assumption from two people who have never before published on the topic.

      1 reply 1 retweet 17 likes
    8. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 23 Apr 2021
      Replying to @zeynep @Dawn_Kopecki

      You can find legalistic reasons on why you can just quote them, or you can do the responsible thing & research if that's justified either as a conclusion or a headline, since people will assume it's true as is. I can refer you to dozens of leading, published people in this field.

      1 reply 2 retweets 20 likes
    9. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 23 Apr 2021
      Replying to @zeynep @Dawn_Kopecki

      zeynep tufekci Retweeted Eric Topol

      I am a co-author on this paper, and can refer you to almost anyone who's been publishing in this field—the very people who've been showing why the six-feet rule isn't enough by itself or 100% protective, but also that doesn't mean distance is irrelevant.https://twitter.com/EricTopol/status/1382825519171833859 …

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      Eric TopolVerified account @EricTopol
      Airborne it is. 🦠 The 10 streams of overwhelming evidence https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(21)00869-2/fulltext … @TheLancet by @trishgreenhalgh @kprather88 @Rschooley @zeynep @jljcolorado @dfisman a 5-★ succinct summary pic.twitter.com/Ox305pSoaU
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    10. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 23 Apr 2021
      Replying to @zeynep @Dawn_Kopecki

      zeynep tufekci Retweeted Linsey Marr

      Another leading scientist on airborne transmission.https://twitter.com/linseymarr/status/1385751394595090436 …

      zeynep tufekci added,

      Linsey MarrVerified account @linseymarr
      Replying to @zeynep @jljcolorado
      This is a silly headline, as the model ASSUMES instantaneously and continuously well-mixed conditions, like if you blow a smoke ring, the moment it exits your mouth it immediate spreads evenly throughout the room. Under such conditions, of course distance doesn't matter!
      1 reply 1 retweet 7 likes
      zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 23 Apr 2021
      Replying to @zeynep @Dawn_Kopecki

      zeynep tufekci Retweeted Linsey Marr

      We’re not quibbling. It’s wrong to tell people distance never matters.https://twitter.com/linseymarr/status/1385752349738688518 …

      zeynep tufekci added,

      Linsey MarrVerified account @linseymarr
      Replying to @CNBC
      Please fix this headline, as the model they used ASSUMES that the room is instantaneously and continuously well-mixed, like if you blow a smoke ring, it immediately spreads evenly throughout the room in zero seconds. The headline is a tautology. @zeynep /1
      5:30 PM - 23 Apr 2021
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          Unfortunately, clickbait brings more traffic to them (@CNBC)!

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