The situation in India is dire and all variants associated with a surge need attention. But this man is 88 years-old, diabetic, two prior heart surgeries, and still had only mild symptoms (mild fever was reported) and is hospitalized out of caution likely because he is former PM.https://twitter.com/GabrielScally/status/1384452978086596616 …
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The surge in India looks terrifying and reports are horrific. The hospital system may collapse, and India needs immediate support in all ways we can. This is unchecked exponential growth. The potential variant contribution (increased transmissibility?) doesn't change the basics.pic.twitter.com/UehtCPAIMs
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There is already encouraging reports about vaccine efficacy out of India—breakthroughs appearing to be extremely rare despite dominance of variants. But that doesn't lessen the reality and the severity of their crisis. Exponential, unchecked growth is a crisis. ht
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Replying to @zeynep @munna_jajbati
I can't see any published data other than phase II data against b117 UK strain? We also need control data to interpret vaccine effectiveness which is missing in that table.
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Replying to @chrischirp @munna_jajbati
Covaxin had interim phase III data out for more than a month, and more were announced this morning.https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/bharat-biotech-announces-phase-3-results-all-you-need-to-know/articleshow/81312912.cms …
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I mean, keep an eye on it for sure, but the results so far are not discouraging. Crucially, though, they are in a terrible, terrible spot. Don't have a good basis for conclusion but wouldn't be surprised by higher transmissibility, at least, for B.1.167.https://www.livemint.com/news/india/bharat-biotech-s-covaxin-found-100-effective-against-severe-covid-disease-in-phase-3-interim-analysis-11618997960204.html …
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Replying to @zeynep @munna_jajbati
they are definitely encouraging against prevalent variants pre March 2021 (inc B117)... say less about B1617 as far as I can tell. Is there a paper on the back of the press release? there wasn't a link in the release or article...
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Yeah not taking it at face value at all. Just that vaccine breakthrough doesn't seem to be the center of their crisis. I don't understand why there isn't an urgency around their actual crisis, as opposed to variant/vaccine worries about 88 year old vaccinated man with mild fever.
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i think there *is* urgency around their crisis. I totally agree that whether variant caused or not, the situation is horrifying.
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But what are we doing? I'm going to get back to writing about all this soon but to me it's like Brazil: there are some news reports (valuable) but no global action (I get the problems with leadership issue, especially since I'm from Turkey). Still, what's our response? Tragedy.
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No no. Sorry, I was completely talking about here (and I kept seeing that tweet/similar stuff being shared by people here as a statement of vaccine concern). Of course Indian media will report on former PM. Wasn't talking about that at all. (Okay back to long form!).
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