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    1. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 21 Apr 2021

      zeynep tufekci Retweeted Dr Gabriel Scally

      The situation in India is dire and all variants associated with a surge need attention. But this man is 88 years-old, diabetic, two prior heart surgeries, and still had only mild symptoms (mild fever was reported) and is hospitalized out of caution likely because he is former PM.https://twitter.com/GabrielScally/status/1384452978086596616 …

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      Dr Gabriel Scally @GabrielScally
      Concern about the variant first identified in India can only grow after a former Indian PM is admitted to hospital with COVID even though he has had two doses of vaccine. https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/former-pm-manmohan-singh-tests-covid-19-positive-admitted-to-aiims/articleshow/82146482.cms …
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    2. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 21 Apr 2021

      The surge in India looks terrifying and reports are horrific. The hospital system may collapse, and India needs immediate support in all ways we can. This is unchecked exponential growth. The potential variant contribution (increased transmissibility?) doesn't change the basics.pic.twitter.com/UehtCPAIMs

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      zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 21 Apr 2021

      There is already encouraging reports about vaccine efficacy out of India—breakthroughs appearing to be extremely rare despite dominance of variants. But that doesn't lessen the reality and the severity of their crisis. Exponential, unchecked growth is a crisis. ht @munna_jajbatipic.twitter.com/WfuFEt1V3E

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        2. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 21 Apr 2021

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          Yeah exactly. What I interpreted, anecdotally, as a story about how good these vaccines are turned into something people are sharing as concern about the vaccines. https://twitter.com/ac8786/status/1384871597299937282 …

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        3. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 21 Apr 2021

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          Given the depth of India's crisis, maybe we can reflect a bit on how much of the focus has been on the potential, speculative threat to us in the vaccine-rich wealthy countries (VARIANTS ON PLANES!) rather than what can we do, immediately, to help them.😢 https://twitter.com/benwritesthings/status/1384872248423636994 …

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        4. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 21 Apr 2021

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          My guess: No "escaped a catastrophe before" is a guarantee, and our explanations were too speculative. I think neither Brazil nor India had herd immunity (seroprevalence studies weren't random) and *every* nonimmune (unvaccinated) population is under risk. https://twitter.com/korystotesbery/status/1384874124376514562 …

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        5. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 21 Apr 2021

          We don't have to wait for full details of variant analyses or focus on potential effects here to recognize this: the crisis in India is really, really, really dire and has the potential to be the worst case in the world. Our lack of robust global response is heartbreaking.

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        2. Prof. Christina Pagel‏Verified account @chrischirp 21 Apr 2021
          Replying to @zeynep @munna_jajbati

          I can't see any published data other than phase II data against b117 UK strain? We also need control data to interpret vaccine effectiveness which is missing in that table.

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        3. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 21 Apr 2021
          Replying to @chrischirp @munna_jajbati

          Covaxin had interim phase III data out for more than a month, and more were announced this morning.https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/bharat-biotech-announces-phase-3-results-all-you-need-to-know/articleshow/81312912.cms …

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        1. magdalena steinrück‏ @m_sciencerocks 21 Apr 2021
          Replying to @zeynep @munna_jajbati

          How are these numbers normalized/controlled?

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        1. Jonah Fleishhacker‏ @jonahfleish 21 Apr 2021
          Replying to @zeynep @munna_jajbati

          These numbers mean nothing without a control for the baseline infections among unvaccinated. Could be very good or very bad.

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        2. Deepti Gurdasani‏ @dgurdasani1 21 Apr 2021
          Replying to @zeynep @munna_jajbati

          This doesn't look like trial data (unlikely that crores were followed up in a trial), and given the known undertesting in India, & underreporting it's very likely that these are underestimates. We definitely need to see the control group.

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        3. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 21 Apr 2021
          Replying to @dgurdasani1 @munna_jajbati

          I'd also like more data. But US vaccine breakthroughs are also rarer than even my best hopes tbh. We'll see. That said, India's current, immediate and horrifying crisis does not seem to center around vaccine breakthroughs, and seems to deserve action regardless.pic.twitter.com/IKmA2VUShe

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