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    1. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 18 Apr 2021

      zeynep tufekci Retweeted Linsey Marr

      Another good addition for people following this topic is Dr. @linseymarr, a true pioneer in this field (her latest in @bmj_latest, also out this week(!), was titled "Covid-19 has redefined airborne transmission").https://twitter.com/linseymarr/status/1382842521286549508 …

      zeynep tufekci added,

      Linsey MarrVerified account @linseymarr
      Yes, the "airborne route is likely to be dominant." https://twitter.com/EricTopol/status/1382825519171833859 …
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    2. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 18 Apr 2021

      zeynep tufekci Retweeted Linsey Marr

      And just putting this thread here so people can get some context of how difficult it has been, for so long, to make progress.https://twitter.com/linseymarr/status/1383066390136041477 …

      zeynep tufekci added,

      Linsey MarrVerified account @linseymarr
      Replying to @zeynep @j_g_allen and 4 others
      YES! Welcome to my world for the past 13 years. So incredibly at odds with current scientific understanding! I have been going around saying that the medical textbooks are wrong, and people think I'm weird...which I am.
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    3. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 19 Apr 2021

      Feels like an inflection point. Do read what the article linked by Dr. Karan argues: that short-range (close contact) transmission of respiratory infections is also PRIMARILY aerosols—goes against decades of claims of aerosols only/mostly being long-range. https://twitter.com/AbraarKaran/status/1384240928873844742 …pic.twitter.com/xvf2bQeES8

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    4. Aaron Richterman, MD‏ @AaronRichterman 19 Apr 2021
      Replying to @zeynep

      This is why many of us are in favor of doing away with most of the terminology altogether and sticking to respiratory transmission.

      1 reply 1 retweet 14 likes
    5. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 19 Apr 2021
      Replying to @AaronRichterman

      A terminology update might help. Important to get the right size established though, because it has a lot of implications and helps correct errors. (Droplets precautions aren’t useless, for example, but don’t imply dominance of >100 micron particles propelled by gravity).

      1 reply 1 retweet 10 likes
    6. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 19 Apr 2021
      Replying to @zeynep @AaronRichterman

      (I’m inundated now with mail from places like India and Turkey that are going through major surges that are being met with plexiglass, closing parks, curfews, little to no mention of ventilation... Distance is seen as binary, as one would assume with gravity-propelled droplets.)

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    7. Aaron Richterman, MD‏ @AaronRichterman 19 Apr 2021
      Replying to @zeynep

      Wont argue abt lots of effort being spent on inefficient transmission prevention with little to no marginal benefit. Isn’t one point, though, that most respiratory viral transmission through same inhalational mechanism? +/- contact component & w varying efficiencies at distance?

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    8. Aaron Richterman, MD‏ @AaronRichterman 19 Apr 2021
      Replying to @AaronRichterman @zeynep

      Leads me to think that we need to unbatch these infection control interventions and consider the specifics of the given respiratory pathogen. Clearly maximal intensity of everything not needed in every circumstance and for every bug.

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    9. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 19 Apr 2021
      Replying to @AaronRichterman

      Yeah. US hospitals may have a different view of the scale of the problem because they have a greatly structured environment: if you have excellent ventilation and can impose universal surgical masking on patients, your theory of transmission or particle size isn't as crucial.

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    10. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 19 Apr 2021
      Replying to @zeynep @AaronRichterman

      But when you go one step out, though, what I've seen last year is that not having the underlying mechanism correct (i.e. assuming one meter drop distance) leads to incorrect and/or binary and rigid mitigations that don't let people reason correctly about context/circumstance/bug.

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      zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 19 Apr 2021
      Replying to @zeynep @AaronRichterman

      (Problem much bigger around the world because we have the CDC, hospitals have infection control people, doctors can read the new literature in English. Many countries, sadly, barely mention ventilation, stick to "one meter", mitigations are all upside down despite huge surge...)

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