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    2. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 19 Apr 2021

      These things are tough! Understandable that some expressed reservations about this while other leading scientists supported the dose-sparing strategy. But holding off on declaring such disagreements to be “not following the science” might help. Dose sparing was not unprecedented.

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    3. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 19 Apr 2021

      There are, of course, also other things going on that make these country comparisons difficult. But that’s the whole point, these things are tough! There is a lot of things for which there is no single, clear right answer and disagreement is normal. But we gotta act.

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    4. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 19 Apr 2021

      People do not have to agree on dose-sparing as the best strategy and analysis of UK’s dramatic divergence from rest of Europe. But UK’s own scientific committee and a lot of leading scientists who advocated for it, nor those who disagreed, were “not following the science”.

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    5. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 19 Apr 2021

      zeynep tufekci Retweeted Notresposibleatall4rt

      Yes, not really relevant in the US right now, but the discussion happened in December/January when thousands were dying per day. Anyway, “follow the science” or “science is clear” gets thrown around a lot—ignoring there were leading, highly-credentialed scientists on both sides.https://twitter.com/garpproton1/status/1384161258228776972 …

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      Notresposibleatall4rt @garpproton1
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      At this point it seems likely that, in the U.S. at least, supply isn’t going to be the limiting factor. Rather, convincing people to get vaccinated. And of course, in the long run no one country can end the pandemic; it’s a global problem.
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      zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 19 Apr 2021

      zeynep tufekci Retweeted Gledster - stuck on corrupt plague island.

      I get this, and I also still think that reasonable people can disagree about dose-sparing as a strategy. But “Boris sucks” (or a version of it) is a bad heuristic for evaluating such decisions/topics, even if “Boris” [insert politician] may well suck. (See Florida in US).https://twitter.com/Gledster/status/1384159506473504780 …

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      Gledster - stuck on corrupt plague island. @Gledster
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      Given how the UK government has acted throughout the pandemic; alongside how Johnson allegedly "fought experts to save Christmas" and helped dramatically increase the January death-toll; the claim wasn't completely without merit.
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        2. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 19 Apr 2021

          As disclosure: I co-advocated for a *trial* (preferrably an adaptive one) on dose sparing/delaying early December (with @michaelmina_lab) because I think it’s best to bolster our decisions with data as best we can, and as soon as we can, even if we have to decide quickly.

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        3. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 19 Apr 2021

          (Note: all the people telling me the UK situation is multi-causal and comparisons are difficult. Well, yeah, see above tweet. If the adaptive trial we advocated for had been launched in December, we’d have clearer answers now. The point remains: it was not an unscientific step).

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        4. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 19 Apr 2021

          (Folks yes I know, weekend stats. I put the seven-day rolling average on screenshot for a reason.). Forget the edit button I want to put footnotes to my tweets 😁. On that note, back to the piece I’m actually writing.pic.twitter.com/SS6FB0gMwB

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        5. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 19 Apr 2021

          zeynep tufekci Retweeted zeynep tufekci

          I thought the below wouldn’t need to be said after a whole year of explainers on herd immunity but please do note simultaneous vaccines vs lockdowns isn’t analytically that separable. (Sensible to accelerate both to get stronger exponential decay!) (Adding due to many comments.)https://twitter.com/zeynep/status/1384203573068591112 …

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          zeynep tufekciVerified account @zeynep
          Programming note. Remember all those explainers on how herd immunity works? Such interactions happens before herd immunity is reached as well: vaccination and lockdown effects, of course interact so can't be neatly separated. Vaccination helps protect the unvaccinated as well. https://twitter.com/zeynep/status/1384192761251827718 …
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        6. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 19 Apr 2021

          Twitter EDIT button: When the UK decided last December to delay boosters to speed up coverage, it faced denunciations that it wasn't "following the science"—not just that people could disagree with it, but that it was unscientific. Today, UK deaths are much lower. See thread⬆️.pic.twitter.com/1KU07bTrOR

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        1. Dr. Melissa is not a medical doctor but is vaxxed‏ @mjlindbergphd 19 Apr 2021
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          Florida in the US only looks good because they fired their medical examiner and hid the deaths.

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        1. Chris Pepper‏ @reppep 19 Apr 2021
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          No, but he has consistently done the wrong/quick thing, so Boris bucking consensus easily slotted into a pattern of him seizing the wrong quick fix. If someone without such an ugly record had done the same, they would have been easier to take seriously.

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        1. Ben Lieberman‏ @BenDLieberman 19 Apr 2021
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          Good overall point. Regarding Florida, in that case there was no pursuit of an intriguing (if disputed) plan B--as in the case of the UK. Florida may show the presence of some variables that we still don't have a complete handle on--seasonality? (India?)

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