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    1. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 19 Apr 2021

      zeynep tufekci Retweeted Nate Silver

      I agree we should better explain the dramatic risk reduction after vaccines. I've long been shouting from rooftops about the need to communicate better that they will greatly blunt transmission. On the other other hand, infectious risks are different category than car crashes.https://twitter.com/NateSilver538/status/1383926074380210183 …

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      Nate SilverVerified account @NateSilver538
      The reason I think that some *vaccinated* people are in fact being irrational about COVID risk is stuff like this. It's inconsistent with how I imagine they'd handle other risks of a similar or indeed larger magnitude, e.g. riding in a car. https://twitter.com/davidshor/status/1380931665766277120?s=19 …
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    2. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 19 Apr 2021

      Corollary question: is the blunting of risk of transmission sufficiently great post-vaccination (for US vaccines) that the question is essentially completely individualized? I have thoughts, and there is a bunch of data already, but we/the CDC should explicitly address that part.

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    3. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 19 Apr 2021

      (Car crashes also affect others but car crashes do not have transmission chains. Do the vaccinated initiate transmission chains to the degree we need to think about it? Is it so blunted that this is no longer a big enough risk?That should be the explicit CDC discussion).

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      zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 19 Apr 2021

      The CDC guidelines have implicit assumptions about the answer to the question of post-vaccination transmission and they are actually fairly strong, but not been explicit enough to the public. The CDC making it explicit would help. Give people intuition/mechanisms, not just rules.

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        2.  🇺🇸617to416 🇨🇦‏ @617to416 19 Apr 2021
          Replying to @zeynep

          Isn't the issue that we don't fully understand the transmission risks. We know they are low once vaccinated, but we don't know how low. Nor do we fully understand the transmissibility of variants. Wearing masks and distancing are not particularly inconvenient so why not do them?

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        1. Tom Slattery‏ @Slats95 19 Apr 2021
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          CDC says vaccinated don’t need to quarantine after a known exposure to a positive case, and don’t need to test or quarantine for travel. Hardly seems advice for people likely to carry and transmit.https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/fully-vaccinated-guidance.html …

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        2. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 19 Apr 2021
          Replying to @summerm4n

          The recommendations on what you should do are.

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        1. goldnecklace‏ @goldnecklace2 19 Apr 2021
          Replying to @zeynep

          I think being v straight up about risk assessment would give Americans some faith in public health and I really believe they would make better decisions and be less cynical and self-interested. Paternalistic leadership makes populations fed up.

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        2. Wanting better‏ @cschneider8224 19 Apr 2021
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          I'm not at all clear on post-vaccination transmission. To me, it appears to be very, very, very low. But current guidance doesn't convey that or give permission to people to ease up, at all. Imo, people aren't acting irrationally, they are following guidance.

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        3. Wanting better‏ @cschneider8224 19 Apr 2021
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          In particular, I feel like the recent evidence that clarifies more precisely what the risk is, are not being communicated. The message is still "yes, it is lower but we don't know by how much". Yet, we do know more about the "by how much" part, no?

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        1. Kevin Jones‏ @planleap 19 Apr 2021
          Replying to @zeynep

          Car crashes do have transmission chains. Pile ups happen. Rubber necking happens. Ambulances speeding to an accident crash.

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