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    1. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 19 Apr 2021

      zeynep tufekci Retweeted Nate Silver

      I agree we should better explain the dramatic risk reduction after vaccines. I've long been shouting from rooftops about the need to communicate better that they will greatly blunt transmission. On the other other hand, infectious risks are different category than car crashes.https://twitter.com/NateSilver538/status/1383926074380210183 …

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      Nate SilverVerified account @NateSilver538
      The reason I think that some *vaccinated* people are in fact being irrational about COVID risk is stuff like this. It's inconsistent with how I imagine they'd handle other risks of a similar or indeed larger magnitude, e.g. riding in a car. https://twitter.com/davidshor/status/1380931665766277120?s=19 …
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    2. Shane Duggan‏ @SB_Duggan 19 Apr 2021
      Replying to @zeynep

      Genuine question: how so? If I take a defensive driving course, drive a safe car, wear a seatbelt, drive within rules, am I not reducing risk for myself and others? Is that not similar to keeping hands clean, wearing mask in tight spaces, getting vaccinated?

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      zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 19 Apr 2021
      Replying to @SB_Duggan

      Transmission chain is the difference--even the worst car crash (affecting others) is a local event.

      5:50 AM - 19 Apr 2021
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        2. Shane Duggan‏ @SB_Duggan 19 Apr 2021
          Replying to @zeynep

          That makes sense. Vaccine doesn’t break that?

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        3. Joi Ito's Jibo sez  ⚡ 🚀‏ @JMEightDigits 19 Apr 2021
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          Joi Ito's Jibo sez  ⚡ 🚀 Retweeted zeynep tufekci

          https://twitter.com/zeynep/status/1384126975225208838?s=19 …

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          zeynep tufekciVerified account @zeynep
          (Car crashes also affect others but car crashes do not have transmission chains. Do the vaccinated initiate transmission chains to the degree we need to think about it? Is it so blunted that this is no longer a big enough risk?That should be the explicit CDC discussion).
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        2. Andy Gardner‏ @ZodiacFirebroom 19 Apr 2021
          Replying to @zeynep @SB_Duggan

          The only type of car crash even remotely comparable would be a multiple lane highway pile-up, and even then it would have to be an imaginary scenario where the traffic behind keeps piling into the crash. The vaccine adds brakes to this, but you still have to drive careful.

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        3. Shane Duggan‏ @SB_Duggan 19 Apr 2021
          Replying to @ZodiacFirebroom @zeynep

          This sounds like it is getting close to one of those physics problems: “imagine an infinite lane highway with no friction...”

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        2. Luna Lovegood‏ @UrsaMajor603 19 Apr 2021
          Replying to @zeynep @SB_Duggan

          Also, there isn’t such an easy way to avoid a car crash, short of not driving at all. If there were, we should make people do it!

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        3. Shane Duggan‏ @SB_Duggan 19 Apr 2021
          Replying to @UrsaMajor603 @zeynep

          Well even then you don’t completely avoid it unless you live somewhere cars/powered transportation isn’t permitted!

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        1. Jeff Klein‏ @jeffmklein 19 Apr 2021
          Replying to @zeynep @SB_Duggan

          This is true, but eventually the social risk shifts to a personal risk - at this point, most high-risk people have been vaccinated.

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