Yeah. The point was on what it really takes to have deep, substantive critical thinking and challenge, and what devolves into games that don't. Again: I pay people way above industry rates out of my own pocket to take me down as substantively as they can.https://twitter.com/tomeclarke/status/1383395983984259076?s=20 …
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I usually avoid quote tweets exactly because of this problem and I am doing it here on purpose, tbh. I could do it in a much worse fashion, I know the game. I am also kinda good at devil's advocate, kinda sadly tbh, and I try always to stop myself because it dulls my thinking.
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zeynep tufekci Retweeted Tom Clarke
You can either try to understand what she's trying to say by looking at what was in the full thread, or ask her, or just think about it, or you can screenshot it out of context and go "hurl me into the sun" and get retweets and complaints about the woke.https://twitter.com/tomeclarke/status/1383402232821866496 …
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zeynep tufekci Retweeted Michael David Smith
Ah crap I screenshotted from two different threads—my mistake!— and now the other one I wanted is gone. You are right, and this is why I don't normally quote tweet. Let me correct and see if I can redo the thread.https://twitter.com/MichaelDavSmith/status/1383404575172874254 …
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Michael David SmithVerified account @MichaelDavSmithReplying to @zeynepCan you please address why you falsely claimed@jessesingal ignored follow-up tweets from the person he was criticizing? I'm truly astonished that you did this, Zeynep. I have nothing but respect for all you've done in the last 14 months but this is so dishonest and so unlike you4 replies 0 retweets 14 likesShow this thread -
Hang on folks, apologies. I have become an argument and an example against quote-tweeting (yikes, lol, sorry!) in my argument against quote-tweeting and why these platforms aren't conducive to this.
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zeynep tufekci Retweeted Jesse Singal
Okey dokey. To restate: I object to this because the "devil's advocate" method, especially in context of platform design, encourages empty dunking that passes as critical thinking, and "hurl me into the sun" is an almost comical example of exactly that!https://twitter.com/jessesingal/status/1383267303035346949 …
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zeynep tufekci Retweeted zeynep tufekci
Let me add this: you have to think of it all in the context of today's public sphere and attention economy. "Devil's advocate" isn't a debate skill that's operating in a vacuum, but in a world where gamified contrarianism/DA is lucrative and rewarding.https://twitter.com/zeynep/status/1383410899155750916 …
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thanks for all this, a thought and subsequent example on a similar discussion earlier:https://twitter.com/MDaware/status/1383392435787558915 …
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