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    zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 14 Apr 2021

    zeynep tufekci Retweeted Céline Gounder, MD, ScM, FIDSA

    What I don't understand. The issue isn't whether a "Nate Silver" [insert pundit you like/don't like] opines or not. The key difference is that a few gatekeepers absolutely DO NOT control how this plays out anymore. That's the context to consider. Why aren't we focusing on that?https://twitter.com/celinegounder/status/1382299663269761024 …

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    Céline Gounder, MD, ScM, FIDSAVerified account @celinegounder
    With all due respect to @NateSilver538, he is not an expert on the psychology of vaccine confidence. He is a poll aggregator and political pundit. He is not an infectious disease specialist, epidemiologist, vaccinologist, virologist, immunologist, or behavioral scientist. pic.twitter.com/HBrI6zj9aa
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      2. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 14 Apr 2021

        The "listen to experts/science" crowd needs to see the problem: well-credentialed experts IN YOUR FIELD have confident, contradictory assertions all over the place. So it turns into "which experts" which turns into "ones I like"—not really a manageable process for ordinary folks.

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      3. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 14 Apr 2021

        We turn to health authorities to try to manage this—the obvious and my preferred solution—but let's just say that it's pretty clear that this hasn't been, to put it politely, a smooth and consistent process. I say this because I want it to be better, but reality is reality.

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      4. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 14 Apr 2021

        Anyway, all the intra-expert (yes, intra-expert: the credentialed experts do NOT have a consensus on many key questions) and intra-elite debate (fine, put me in it if you want) but doesn't solve our problem. Doesn't even address it.

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      5. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 14 Apr 2021

        (Folks, feel free NOT to send me your opinions on Nate Silver, or any single pundit right after I kinda said excessive focus on a single person isn't addressing the problem. Intra-elite debates or jostling are... they are what they are. Uninteresting. Nobody has crystal balls).

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      6. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 14 Apr 2021

        zeynep tufekci Retweeted zeynep tufekci

        Let me add this here. I have seen the full range of opinion on FDAs steps from credentialed experts. No surprise! It's a very tough moment to navigate and NOBODY has "the" absolute right answer because we aren't solving a quadratic equation here.https://twitter.com/zeynep/status/1382345267148685313 …

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        zeynep tufekciVerified account @zeynep
        Replying to @EricColumbus
        I have seen the full range (good, bad, terrible) from experts with all the credentials you want, plus an enormous range of private opinion as well (these fields tend to be quite top down in expressing dissent, as we saw all year, but they are also many outspoken ones).
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      7. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 14 Apr 2021

        Conclusion for now, from my first newsletter titled "Against Nostalgia." We are in a transition: a mismatch between our reality and our cultural and institutional capacity to manage it. Nostalgia for the past (common yearning) isn't going to solve this. https://www.theinsight.org/p/against-nostalgia …pic.twitter.com/jbRLSVgPph

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      8. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 14 Apr 2021

        zeynep tufekci Retweeted Matthew Herper

        Gatekeepers—even weakened—and public health authorities have a huge role to play but the question is way beyond "message". It's about developing capacity for this new public sphere. Constantly saying "listen to experts" (which ones?) doesn't address this.https://twitter.com/matthewherper/status/1382369855861616642 …

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        Matthew HerperVerified account @matthewherper
        Replying to @zeynep
        A different question. Yes, there are no gatekeepers. But a lot of yesterday's commentary assumed gatekeepers can control public opinion. Do we want public health officials to think in terms of how their message resonates with the populace? Is that the right framing?
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      9. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 14 Apr 2021

        Serious? Without claiming this person is right, or that I agree, how about a public health professor at Johns Hopkins University with an MD and an MPH and who teaches public health policy? Examples are numerous and "expert" opinion is all over the place. https://twitter.com/GarrSigmund/status/1382378733248581634 …pic.twitter.com/7zKd8j30a2

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      10. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 14 Apr 2021

        zeynep tufekci Retweeted

        First, I'm "ranting" about my actual area of expertise for once!😁 By your logic, you should only listen to me on this. Two, what I think about the surgeon general is irrelevant. Three, what did you think about the previous surgeon general and his opinions?https://twitter.com/grtamericanovel/status/1382370181838671874 …

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      11. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 14 Apr 2021

        zeynep tufekci Retweeted

        Congratulations, you have just become a Twitter pundit and proven my point: if we are supposed to pick and choose which surgeon general to trust, "stop ranting and listen to the surgeon general" does not solve the problem I'm trying to explain. https://twitter.com/grtamericanovel/status/1382383598221856771 …

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      12. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 14 Apr 2021

        *takes a risk to write outside her core field for a year because it's a global crisis* *tries for once to actually comment on her core field, where she has book, articles, all the classic credentials* 😁😁pic.twitter.com/dvR91NrAN3

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      13. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 14 Apr 2021

        zeynep tufekci Retweeted Jessica Pickett

        To conclude the day, ACIP meeting was interesting and it included assertions from experts ranging from one calling the pause "devastating" to others saying restarting now would be "unacceptable". These are necessarily "no single right answer" questions.https://twitter.com/pickettjessica/status/1382445712122724359 …

        zeynep tufekci added,

        Jessica Pickett @pickettjessica
        ACIP verdict: extending the pause for 7-10 days, when they will reconvene for a more structured risk/benefit assessment on the expectation that significantly more cases will come to light in the interim...but recognizing they will need to vote on a recommendation then regardless.
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      14. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 14 Apr 2021

        So, simultaneously, we have: a new public sphere which our institutions weren't designed for; fairly robust intra-expert disagreement on the right answer to many key questions (unsurprising given the moment); and lots of decisions under uncertainty. *That's* the challenge.

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