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Complex systems, wicked problems. Society, technology, science and more. @UNC professor. @NYTimes columnist. My newsletter is @insight: http://www.theinsight.org 

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    1. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 11 Apr 2021

      CNN article on how to safely fly claims that 90% vaccine efficacy means that🙄 for every million who fly, we could have 100,000 infections. NO NO NO. That’s not what that number means. Also, this didn’t even happen when millions flew unvaccinated. So how could it make sense now?pic.twitter.com/4MLW5oFw4f

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    2. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 11 Apr 2021

      I realize it’s tough. Everyone is suddenly writing about the pandemic, no matter what their topic. And vaccine efficacy is a relative measure, so those are always pesky. But we’ve had the vaccines for many months now, and by now one would hope for a slightly better understanding.

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    3. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 11 Apr 2021

      zeynep tufekci Retweeted Aaron Astor

      Yeah. That’s why it isn’t a good way to represent the risk of flying even if you could concoct a scenario under which you can imagine that number.https://twitter.com/AstorAaron/status/1381225496067899392 …

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      Aaron Astor @AstorAaron
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      Or maybe a better way to frame it is if one million people fly and covid viral particles are literally pumped into the aircraft cabin for the duration of a flight, 100,000 could become infected.
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    4. Filippo ${jndi:ldap://filippo.io/t} Valsorda‏Verified account @FiloSottile 11 Apr 2021
      Replying to @zeynep

      Maybe a good framing would be that for every 1,000,000 vaccinated people that fly, it's as if 100,000 people were flying. Still doesn't account for the milder effects in vaccinated people, but close to what the efficacy number means, and lets us compare with pre-vaccine numbers.

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      zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 11 Apr 2021
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      But that probably won’t communicate, either, because 100,000 people flying is still pretty low risk, because of ventilation, even without vaccination. That’s what the article is avoiding saying even though the rest of it isn’t bad if you read it sentence by sentence.

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        1. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 11 Apr 2021
          Replying to @zeynep @FiloSottile

          It’s more a communication problem, I guess, then mere innumeracy. Sigh

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        1. shazam‏ @shapple 11 Apr 2021
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          What do you think about unvaccinated children flying, though?

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