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Complex systems, wicked problems. Society, technology, science and more. @UNC professor. @NYTimes columnist. My newsletter is @insight: http://www.theinsight.org 

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    1. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 9 Apr 2021

      Read and weep how the Skagit choir superspreading outbreak, first in the US, was ignored or explained away as maybe fomites or contact—a theory that required contortions that'd make epicycles blush—despite are-you-kidding-me obvious airborne transmission. https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2021/04/08/magazine/skagit-valley-chorale-covid-superspreader.html …pic.twitter.com/DLO7UBqco9

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    2. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 9 Apr 2021

      I remember reading—essentially, jaw-on-the-floor—assertions for months on how it could be snack sharing or chair stacking despite how, even the initial reports made it pretty clear how careful choir members were, and how unlikely contact alone could explain numbers of that kind.

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    3. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 9 Apr 2021

      zeynep tufekci Retweeted zeynep tufekci

      I say the below without excluding myself whatsoever because this has been the biggest struggle for me, too, throughout this pandemic, but I believe this has haunted our response on the science side—and social media has made it both easier and harder.https://twitter.com/zeynep/status/1379841672490651648 …

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      I'm increasingly convinced that clear thinking is primarily a struggle against motivated reasoning, with most everything else we tend to see as important and central instead playing a supporting role in that fight.
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    4. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 9 Apr 2021

      To recap, 61 careful, pandemic-aware people showed up at a huge space—distanced, no hugs, hand-sanitizers everywhere—and 53 of them got infected in *one evening*. They even propped the door open to avoid knob touching. And we got told that it was maybe fomites or snack sharing.pic.twitter.com/s4f3vaIDcy

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    5. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 9 Apr 2021

      zeynep tufekci Retweeted girldetectivex

      There is nothing wrong with hand-washing. It's general good practice. What is wrong has been the very lengthy official and expert lack of acknowledgment and proper prioritization of the obvious and, crucially, big role of aerosols & airborne transmission.https://twitter.com/GirlDetectiveX/status/1380543170451279873 …

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      girldetectivex @GirlDetectiveX
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      Can I ask you, candidly, how important you consider handwashing to be at this point? I'm really hyperfixated on the airborne components of the virus and continue to be wary of indoor spaces, despite being fully vaccinated.
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      zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 9 Apr 2021

      zeynep tufekci Retweeted Prof. Jose-Luis Jimenez

      Tragic—maybe fomites did contribute to this pandemic, but by diverting our scarce resources and attention away from primary drivers of transmission. (Dr. Jimenez is among the top scientists working on aerosols and COVID, and great for practical advice).https://twitter.com/jljcolorado/status/1380344141519929345 …

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      Prof. Jose-Luis JimenezVerified account @jljcolorado
      .@DGBassani has figured out the real way in which fomites DO contribute to infection: By distracting us from the real airborne transmission, and making us waste effort on the wrong mitigation measures. https://twitter.com/DGBassani/status/1380318217432920065 …
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        1. Jesse Grauman‏ @jessegrauman 9 Apr 2021
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          And it's also why many people still think that it's OK to be unmasked/unvaccinated indoors in a shared space as long as you maintain distance.

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        2. marcela mora y araujo ☮️ 💚‏Verified account @marc_cart 9 Apr 2021
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          I remember reading somewhere about a year ago that ‘announcing’ airborne transmission would cause ‘panic’ .... instruction to wash hands prevailed. Heartbreaking and infuriating in equal measure

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        3. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 9 Apr 2021
          Replying to @marc_cart

          I encountered that argument as well. It could be done carefully, rather than in a panic-inducing way for sure. Many countries did just that.

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        1. Chris‏ @DopeyRunr 9 Apr 2021
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          When the early public health messaging was “masks are useless” and the administration mocked people wearing masks, and then evidence showed they were wrong, rather than admit it, they continued to support the lie. This seems incredibly consistent with their entire response.

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        1. Saraidh‏ @saraidh 10 Apr 2021
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          I work for a medical-adjacent company that wants us to go back to the office, and about half the mitigation measures they're touting are about cleaning, no mention of improved ventilation. It's bonkers.

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        1. SheMac‏ @LeonShe3 10 Apr 2021
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          Yes, but I have to confess an upside that secretly thrills me, as a germaphobe- finally seeing subway cars and shopping carts cleaned. Some of these filthy things have never been cleaned!

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          Perhaps this can be related to a risk management categorisation, so that individuals & institutions all manage the risks they present, & those they expose others to Use of screens & airlocks 100% exclude/contain Time/distance separation Pressure differentials & Ozone foggingpic.twitter.com/wSrdCbZfW7

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