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Complex systems, wicked problems. Society, technology, science and more. @UNC professor. @NYTimes columnist. My newsletter is @insight: http://www.theinsight.org 

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    1. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 6 Apr 2021

      There was recently a claim (in Nature!) that increased vaccination may not help us reach herd immunity because "people will increase their interactions". Real life data says: as vaccination rates increased, rates of infection among the unvaccinated under 16-year-olds *decreased.*pic.twitter.com/0xGuLApxrl

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      zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 6 Apr 2021

      I don't why it's so easy to believe this idea (with us since seat belts, at least) that the benefits of something that works to greatly increase safety will be undone by people becoming so reckless that it overwhelms the safety benefit, but it seems so pervasive.

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        2. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 6 Apr 2021

          Anyway, when many people in a community are vaccinated, those who cannot yet be vaccinated (like young people for whom we don't yet have vaccines, but will soon) are less likely to be infected. It's exactly what one should expect, but nice to see a paper. https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.03.26.21254394v1 …pic.twitter.com/sD5kThfQmU

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        3. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 6 Apr 2021

          zeynep tufekci Retweeted (((Rob Mickey)))

          Indeed. But as decades of research reveals, well, safety devices increase safety, and most things kinda work in straightforward ways. Poverty is alleviated by—gasp—money, health is improved by effective vaccines, seatbelts make cars safer, etc.https://twitter.com/robmickey/status/1379560718744305669 …

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          (((Rob Mickey))) @robmickey
          Many people--especially economists--fall in love with critiques of policy that emphasize perverse, ironic outcomes. These critiques are excellent for highlighting their cleverness, and also for reinforcing their opposition to state action. https://twitter.com/zeynep/status/1379559800963481600 …
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        4. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 6 Apr 2021

          zeynep tufekci Retweeted Linch

          Yes. I am not denying that a second order effect could, sometimes, overwhelm a first order effect, but it's a bit reach and an epistemic move one should approach with great suspicion unless data is strong and mechanism actually realistic etc.https://twitter.com/LinchZhang/status/1379561073234178051 …

          zeynep tufekci added,

          Linch @LinchZhang
          The broad epistemic move here (that I criticized elsewhere) is having overly high initial credence in 2nd order effects over 1st order effects, 3rd order effects over 2nd order, etc, or even more broadly an issue with believing in effects that are "too clever. https://twitter.com/zeynep/status/1379559800963481600 …
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        1. CuriousCat2001‏ @CCat2001 6 Apr 2021
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          Most people hate dying

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        1. BundlebranchblockMD 👁️ 👁️‏ @Bleedinheart2MD 6 Apr 2021
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          They will believe anything that tells them the pandemic won't end. Logic isn't a factor here.

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        1. Adriana‏ @Adriana1o5 6 Apr 2021
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          I think everyone is hooked on drama after the last 4 years we’ve endured 🤷‍♂️

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        1. scott rising‏ @rising 6 Apr 2021
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          We saw this a lot with PrEP for HIV prevention

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        1. Monika Viktorova‏ @mviktoro 6 Apr 2021
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          It makes me think of the claims that teaching sex ed in schools would cause more promiscuity in students, when the opposite is true (with the added benefits of fewer teen pregnancies and STIs)

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        2. melody joy kramer‏Verified account @mkramer 6 Apr 2021
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          You might enjoy this deep dive into car seats and public libraries and sesame street: https://hbr.org/2017/09/audacious-philanthropy … (It's on-the-surface about philanthropy but more about really large scale initiatives.)

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        3. melody joy kramer‏Verified account @mkramer 6 Apr 2021
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          And some of the conclusions here might be of interest as well: https://knightfoundation.org/public-media-white-paper-2017-kramer-o-donovan/ … (Full disclosure: I am coauthor.)

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