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Complex systems, wicked problems. Society, technology, science and more. @UNC professor. @NYTimes columnist. My newsletter is @insight: http://www.theinsight.org 

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    1. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 6 Apr 2021

      Flabbergasted at how much speculative worrying there is out there against current/future variants making our vaccines completely “ineffective” (I’ll easily take a bet against that) when the real issue is we have AMAZING vaccines that DO work, but not enough of them for the world!

      41 replies 198 retweets 1,134 likes
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    2. Dr Ed‏ @notdred 6 Apr 2021
      Replying to @zeynep

      Hard to blame people for worrying given the alarmism that’s rampant in clickbait coverage and among some high-follower Twitter accounts...

      5 replies 4 retweets 68 likes
    3. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 6 Apr 2021
      Replying to @notdred

      I’m really at a loss what to do. Not blaming people. It’s in the news, it’s coming from (otherwise well-credentialed) experts. And seems the (many) who know better don’t openly pushback because parts of pandemic/expert social media has become so cliquish and hostile? Not sure.

      6 replies 5 retweets 72 likes
    4. Dr Ed‏ @notdred 6 Apr 2021
      Replying to @zeynep

      It's a tough one to be sure. I think the best that can be done is to keep trying to call it straight and hope that the message breaks through. At some point reality becomes undeniable.

      3 replies 1 retweet 13 likes
    5. Skychicken‏ @Skychicken172 6 Apr 2021
      Replying to @notdred @zeynep

      I hope so. I read tweet Crotty had about some awesome vax number we had. First comment was basically we are going to cause ADE and an escape mutant. I don’t know where all this comes from but it’s every single thread some far out worry.

      1 reply 1 retweet 6 likes
    6. David Ridley‏ @RidleyDM 6 Apr 2021
      Replying to @Skychicken172 @notdred @zeynep

      And I worry it's exacerbating the biggest risk, which is that not enough people get vaccinated. It would be perverse if the fear that vaccines don't work well enough against variants means that not enough people get vaccinated for them to work well against variants.

      2 replies 0 retweets 23 likes
    7. Dr Ed‏ @notdred 6 Apr 2021
      Replying to @RidleyDM @Skychicken172 @zeynep

      Most of the time when I get a reply like this, the replier refers to EFD. So I'm forced to conclude that he's driving a huge part of the conversation here. He has the reach and he makes more noise than anybody.

      3 replies 0 retweets 38 likes
    8. Dr. Angela Rasmussen‏Verified account @angie_rasmussen 6 Apr 2021
      Replying to @notdred @RidleyDM and

      I have come to the same conclusion. Over and over again that particular "expert" (who is actually not well-credentialed in terms of infectious disease) has referred to variants as completely "escaping" immunity. Antibody neutralization is not synonymous with functional immunity.

      7 replies 7 retweets 80 likes
    9. Edward Nirenberg‏ @ENirenberg 6 Apr 2021
      Replying to @angie_rasmussen @notdred and

      Maybe it would be valuable to have a thread explaining mechanisms of immunological defense that don't rely on antibody neutralization?

      2 replies 0 retweets 6 likes
    10. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 6 Apr 2021
      Replying to @ENirenberg @angie_rasmussen and

      I have (an invited, paid) piece hopefully soon in my newsletter from a real expert on why vaccine resistance is not like antibiotic resistance, and I tried here to explain how statistical power/trial design/efficacy/immune system interacts. That said+https://zeynep.substack.com/p/vaccine-efficacy-statistical-power …

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      zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 6 Apr 2021
      Replying to @zeynep @ENirenberg and

      ..I think what's necessary is longer form pieces, not just threats. No sane person would say let's ignore the variants, but the bigger media message that's really widespread right now is.. wild. Like vaccines are/will definitely buckle, we're potentially back to March 2020 etc.

      11:15 AM - 6 Apr 2021
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        1. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 6 Apr 2021
          Replying to @zeynep @ENirenberg and

          *not just threads. Lol sorry.

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