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Complex systems, wicked problems. Society, technology, science and more. @UNC professor. @NYTimes columnist. My newsletter is @insight: http://www.theinsight.org 

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    1. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 5 Apr 2021

      zeynep tufekci Retweeted Rick

      Yeah. I constantly hear people invoke "immune evasion" (almost always a partial indication from studies that do not pertain to the whole immune system) as if it means vaccines becoming useless against variants. No! Anyway, let's vaccinate the world, ASAP.https://twitter.com/ricksterps/status/1379078510350860289 …

      zeynep tufekci added,

      Rick @ricksterps
      I wish we weren't allergic to good news involving covid. A lot of really positive data coming out recently. If I just read headlines I would believe the vaccines won't protect me from all the variants and they are only good for like 6 months. https://twitter.com/zeynep/status/1379064102824316929 …
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    2. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 5 Apr 2021

      zeynep tufekci Retweeted Nate Silver

      Let's put this here, but keep in mind: tens of millions in the US remain unvaccinated and are *just as much at risk* if infected (if not more, as some variants may also be more deadly). Vaccines are amazing, but the work is to vaccinate everyone, globally.https://twitter.com/NateSilver538/status/1379090275969216519 …

      zeynep tufekci added,

      Nate SilverVerified account @NateSilver538
      Just 222 COVID deaths reported in the US yesterday, which is the fewest since March 23, 2020. https://ourworldindata.org/covid-deaths  pic.twitter.com/FAyvg7tp4Z
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    3. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 6 Apr 2021

      Flabbergasted at how much speculative worrying there is out there against current/future variants making our vaccines completely “ineffective” (I’ll easily take a bet against that) when the real issue is we have AMAZING vaccines that DO work, but not enough of them for the world!

      41 replies 198 retweets 1,134 likes
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    4. Dr Ed‏ @notdred 6 Apr 2021
      Replying to @zeynep

      Hard to blame people for worrying given the alarmism that’s rampant in clickbait coverage and among some high-follower Twitter accounts...

      5 replies 4 retweets 68 likes
    5. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 6 Apr 2021
      Replying to @notdred

      I’m really at a loss what to do. Not blaming people. It’s in the news, it’s coming from (otherwise well-credentialed) experts. And seems the (many) who know better don’t openly pushback because parts of pandemic/expert social media has become so cliquish and hostile? Not sure.

      6 replies 5 retweets 72 likes
    6. Dr Ed‏ @notdred 6 Apr 2021
      Replying to @zeynep

      It's a tough one to be sure. I think the best that can be done is to keep trying to call it straight and hope that the message breaks through. At some point reality becomes undeniable.

      3 replies 1 retweet 13 likes
    7. Skychicken‏ @Skychicken172 6 Apr 2021
      Replying to @notdred @zeynep

      I hope so. I read tweet Crotty had about some awesome vax number we had. First comment was basically we are going to cause ADE and an escape mutant. I don’t know where all this comes from but it’s every single thread some far out worry.

      1 reply 1 retweet 6 likes
    8. David Ridley‏ @RidleyDM 6 Apr 2021
      Replying to @Skychicken172 @notdred @zeynep

      And I worry it's exacerbating the biggest risk, which is that not enough people get vaccinated. It would be perverse if the fear that vaccines don't work well enough against variants means that not enough people get vaccinated for them to work well against variants.

      2 replies 0 retweets 23 likes
    9. Dr Ed‏ @notdred 6 Apr 2021
      Replying to @RidleyDM @Skychicken172 @zeynep

      Most of the time when I get a reply like this, the replier refers to EFD. So I'm forced to conclude that he's driving a huge part of the conversation here. He has the reach and he makes more noise than anybody.

      3 replies 0 retweets 38 likes
    10. Dr. Angela Rasmussen‏Verified account @angie_rasmussen 6 Apr 2021
      Replying to @notdred @RidleyDM and

      I have come to the same conclusion. Over and over again that particular "expert" (who is actually not well-credentialed in terms of infectious disease) has referred to variants as completely "escaping" immunity. Antibody neutralization is not synonymous with functional immunity.

      7 replies 7 retweets 80 likes
      zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 6 Apr 2021
      Replying to @angie_rasmussen @notdred and

      That part is certainly true. That said, I'm not highlighting others (point isn't to create social media pile-ons) but I've seen versions of: completely escaping/useless/renders ineffective pretty broadly claimed, on TV/media/here (by credentialed folks).

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        2. Dr. Angela Rasmussen‏Verified account @angie_rasmussen 6 Apr 2021
          Replying to @zeynep @notdred and

          I have too, but I have to say most virologists/immunologists/vaccinologists/ID epis/ID physicians I've seen take pains to get this right. They can be misquoted, which is also a problem. It's hard to explain that PRNT50 assays don't translate to functional immunity.

          1 reply 0 retweets 26 likes
        3. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 6 Apr 2021
          Replying to @angie_rasmussen @notdred and

          zeynep tufekci Retweeted WebMD

          Yeah. Example of what many ordinary people are seeing. I mean, sure, let's not let this @#!! freely explore the full fitness landscape through an unchecked epidemic—and we have boosters in the works—but what on earth? (It comes from an ill-sampled survey).https://twitter.com/WebMD/status/1377417935703052292 …

          zeynep tufekci added,

          WebMDVerified account @WebMD
          The world has a year or less before variants make current COVID vaccines ineffective, scientists predict. https://wb.md/3fI8U3V  pic.twitter.com/HN2tuSPlnI
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