What I notice in this piece is the sheer number of informed people, all saying the same thing - variants mean it’s not over yethttps://www.nytimes.com/2021/04/03/health/coronavirus-variants-vaccines.html?referringSource=articleShare …
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Replying to @BillHanage
Although I’m a little worried that partial immune escape and higher transmissibility are being conflated here. The latter will speed things up (rather than prolong it, as the headline implies) and bring the next phase around *sooner* but tragically so—more infections.
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Replying to @zeynep @BillHanage
So not all variants are “drawing things out.” Quite the contrary. On partial immune escape, just amazing how everyone is ignoring what *actually* happened in South Africa without widespread vaccination. It’s like the most important data doesn’t count. Baffling.
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Replying to @zeynep
Yes really interesting that. I have my own views on what might have produced it, but don’t have data to address the question
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Replying to @BillHanage
Feels like it should get some attention???
It’s super interesting and obviously very relevant. Yet utterly missing from the “oh noes vaccines are useless against the SA variant” (which is obviously not what has been shown whatsoever but alas) message that’s now spreading.4 replies 3 retweets 36 likes -
Replying to @zeynep @BillHanage
I'm behind, here. What "has been shown" in South Africa? Thanks
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In S.A. daily cases dropped 95% in 5 weeks despite B.1.351 variant circulating and without vaccinations (SA has vaxed less than half of 1%). The S.A. variant is supposed to be "immune escape" variant but its been crushed by natural (infection) immunity of ~33% in the population.
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Yeah. Partial immune escape, mostly neutralizing antibody measures, rest less clear and samples were very small with confidence intervals crossing zero. I don't have an answer. I'm just baffled how many well-credentialed experts say things like vaccines are "useless" against it.
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I’m actually quite frustrated at that narrative. Can’t think of many who would say useless
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Replying to @BillHanage @zeynep
I worry for
@dylanhmorris blood pressure when I hear people say it.1 reply 0 retweets 2 likes
Lol
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