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Complex systems, wicked problems. Society, technology, science and more. @UNC professor. @NYTimes columnist. My newsletter is @insight: http://www.theinsight.org 

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    zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 3 Apr 2021

    zeynep tufekci Retweeted The New York Times

    No, no, no. The right to vote is a *right*; thus a normative question, not one to be analyzed on its presumed partisan effects (besides, social scientists cannot really predict these effects). Please, let's focus on if the law makes it harder to vote, and who the impact falls on.https://twitter.com/nytimes/status/1378336504423051270 …

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    Democrats are concerned that Georgia's new voting law will have a significant effect on turnout and electoral outcomes. The evidence suggests otherwise. https://nyti.ms/3woXCHt 
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      2. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 3 Apr 2021

        Subjecting voting rights into analysis more suitable for, dunno, sports betting is not okay. Even if "the evidence" suggests little partisan impact, it should have no bearing on analysis—besides, this is necessarily weak evidence because social science isn't an oracle.

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      3. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 3 Apr 2021

        I'm open to articles arguing, say, the law is misunderstood & does not restrict voting rights and here's why, but not "it does restrict but meh, won't effect outcome because pissed off people will wait in even longer lines etc." That's not non-partisan analysis, it's just wrong.

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      4. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 3 Apr 2021

        A few people have sent me comparisons of Georgia with New York's voting laws. I dunno if y'all noticed in the last election, but New York is *terrible* at this. We don't seem to pay attention because it's not as contested. Our voting system needs standards and to enforce rights.

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      5. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 3 Apr 2021

        Also, I'll repeat: social science can analyze what happened in the past, but predicting *future* turnout effects in response to a complex new set of rules really isn't something that can be done with precision and confidence. This is reality, not a criticism of our research.

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      1. Firas Durri‏ @firasd 3 Apr 2021
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        Yeah or to make it simpler the *intention* is to make it harder to vote — so it's no great acquittal to say, 'well, the people who won't vote cause of these barriers won't have voted anyway'

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      2. Chris Hundt‏ @honestshrubber 3 Apr 2021
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        Okay, but doesn't the empirical measurement of how it affects voting patterns help determine whether it really does make it meaningfully harder to vote?

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      3. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 3 Apr 2021
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        Not always, because as the research cited shows, pissed off people can endure even more to vote.

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      1. VBM‏ @ofKofiandDej 3 Apr 2021
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        It's as if they have not read the history of twenth century. Yes, I mean all of the heads of print and media news. I cannot fathom why after Trump they still play at this soft ball reporting on authoritarianism.

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      2. Senator Steve Carlson 2.022‏ @SteveWCarlson 3 Apr 2021
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        Baloney, "normative" Schmormative. And it's NOT a right. Where a right has been created by state legislatures, it must be equal. But originally the state legislatures themselves chose the members of the house and they still could. I assume direct election of senate has some ties

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