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Complex systems, wicked problems. Society, technology, science and more. @UNC professor. @NYTimes columnist. My newsletter is @insight: http://www.theinsight.org 

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    1. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 2 Apr 2021

      Just started watching the Diamond Princess documentary and I’m already pre-stressed. (It’s on HBO Max, called “The Last Cruise”.) Eeeek.

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    2. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 2 Apr 2021

      So far, it’s only February 9th, 2020 on the Diamond Princess and the ship’s doctor is certain about presymptomatic transmission (he says about a third seem to be) and it’s clearly spreading via airborne transmission on the ship. Maybe I should watch Jaws for some stress relief.

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    3. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 2 Apr 2021

      Okay they’re now putting all the passengers, including positive ones, in the same plane all the way back to the United States, and they’re most definitely not equipped against aerosol transmission. I think I’ll watch Godzilla, too, to relax.

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      zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 2 Apr 2021

      Well I had read all the papers, but that was still difficult. 714 cases, 14 deaths. The documentary ends reminding us how long it took the CDC to recommend masks and test asymptomatic cases. (I got the impetus for some of my early writing from the Diamond Princess epidemiology).

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        1. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 2 Apr 2021

          We got the most unfortunate “petri dish”—how can you have a “better” natural experiment than a cruise ship?—and we didn’t really learn from it immediately. Just painful to watch. Ugh.

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        2. Andy Schmidt‏ @andyaschmidt 2 Apr 2021
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          The early epidemiology out of China, Japan, and South Korea was incredibly well done and has stood up. We are finally implementing it in schools. The problem is the epidemiology of B117 might be totally different, but nobody has the impetus to do what those countries did now.

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        3. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 2 Apr 2021
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          It really, really was.

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        1. rngman‏ @rngbackonthebus 2 Apr 2021
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          I remember Fauchi back then. He knew. He wasn't saying masks not good. It was-- ordinary people don't need masks. We need them for the hospitals. They didn't want a toilet paper run and they screwed up. But, there wasn't a run on masks.

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        1. klara tovhult‏ @klaratovhult 2 Apr 2021
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          Then imagine Sweden; These measures are still not up everywhere in our country! Only recently did we start isolation of asymptomatic cases. And still no general mask mandate apart from a couple of specific hours on public transport! Not even mask mandates in all our hospitals!

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        1. Schifanoia‏ @tbjkickers 2 Apr 2021
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          Can’t find a thorough investigation why the WHO spoke out against masks when all our East Asian friends had used them for months to beat SARS2.

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