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Complex systems, wicked problems. Society, technology, science and more. @UNC professor. @NYTimes columnist. My newsletter is @insight: http://www.theinsight.org 

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    1. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 30 Mar 2021

      Yes, a new surge is upon us. No, it will not be the same as before. Yes, the good news is still abundant but the challenge is real. My new piece on our race between the vaccines and the variants, and what we need to do urgently, to head it off. https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2021/03/fourth-surge-variant-vaccine/618463/ …pic.twitter.com/HHxGp8tIhl

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    2. Peter Pham‏Verified account @peterpham 30 Mar 2021
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      It's not mathematically possible. I'm usually a fan but this is fear mongering. https://twitter.com/peterpham/status/1376968014722080769?s=20 … 95M 1st shot, 120M already had covid. & variants are NOT increasing re-infections. What are you concerned about?

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      Aren't we all optimistic?!! Every data point it's mathematically & scientifically impossible for us to not to be over. 95M with 1st shot (80% effective). Variants not a concern on vaccinated or natural immunity (120M), monoclonal antibodies 87% effective.
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      zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 30 Mar 2021
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      I do the math! I count the already infected, if anything, fairly generously (not just confirmed, but estimated). We clearly have many millions, including among the elderly, who remain vulnerable but most of whom will get access fairly soon.

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        2. Peter Pham‏Verified account @peterpham 30 Mar 2021
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          appreciate the response, so if that's the case, how can their possibly be a 4th surge? It's not possible as we vaccinate 3M/day with 70-80% in states 65+ 1 shot. ? Also, variant data is clear, no impact on vaccine or previously infected. Your headline is fear

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        3. Mig Greengard‏Verified account @chessninja 30 Mar 2021
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          We’re already seeing said surge in predictably vulnerable (NYC) and underserviced places (Michigan). Don’t say something won’t happen in theory when it’s already happening in practice. Even if vaccination as-is overhauls it in a month, targeting now could save thousands of lives.

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