In his latest paper about COVID infection fatality rates, John Ioannidis does not address the critiques from @GidMK, but instead engages in the most egregious gatekeeping that I have ever seen in a scientific paper.pic.twitter.com/P08sFIovD6
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In his latest paper about COVID infection fatality rates, John Ioannidis does not address the critiques from @GidMK, but instead engages in the most egregious gatekeeping that I have ever seen in a scientific paper.pic.twitter.com/P08sFIovD6
John's defenders have done this in the past, but I'm stunned that he'd stoop to the same. Science doesn't work like that, to say the least. Gideon's degree status is irrelevant and in the entirety of my career I've never seen this issue raised in a scientific paper before.
The condescension and hypocrisy here is mind-boggling.pic.twitter.com/ppaLt4nt9T
And as for non-PhD authors? I wrote four papers as a PhD student in which no author had an advanced degree. Theor. Pop. Biol., Phil. Trans. Royal Society, PNAS, Genetics. Cited 86, 116, 178, and 214 times respectively. Maybe they're all crap, but not b/c of my degree status.pic.twitter.com/VVV8js7Les
Anyway, you can read it for yourself. It's published in the journal for which Ioannidis previously served as Editor in Chief. https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/eci.13554 … Therein John claims the IFR for COVID is 0.15%. By official counts, 0.166% of the US population has already died of COVID.pic.twitter.com/NhEI15BhhI
100% agree this is no way to conduct a scientific discussion. I hope this logic is extended. For example, people keep dunking on EFD because he has a "nutritional epi" PhD. I do think he's wrong (quite often) but because he is wrong, not that he lacks just the right credentials.+
I'm pointing out not because I think he is being treated unfairly or that he's more right etc. but because that pattern looks fairly similar to this incident from the outside, and ends up not debunking his points or convincing people (if anything, probably garners sympathy),
(Disclosure: yeah, I'm also an outsider writing on all this but I really don't mind dunking (I'm tenured!) and I ABSOLUTELY welcome debunking: I pay people to debunk me on my own newsletter. This is genuinely a friendly point on how things look from the outside, not about me).
I love you're writings and you've been on the cutting edge alot. As an outsider observer the insiders as well as the outsiders writing about it, I disagree with you. I think the "dunking" is calling bs, which carl does (as well as correcting...
Sure. General, not directed at Carl personally. There is a lot of it on social media, not just about that person (and really isn't my personal concern; I'm totally fine). I just wanted to say... This is done a lot, to less-favored folks, and this is how it looks from the outside.
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