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    1. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 27 Mar 2021

      An NIH-led study plans to assess transmission after vaccination by asking college students to delay vaccination for four months. To me, this seems neither necessary nor ethically justifiable, and the study design probably can’t even answer their question.https://www.medpagetoday.com/infectiousdisease/covid19vaccine/91832 …

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    2. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 27 Mar 2021

      I looked at the enrollment page, and it has not a word about the effects of delaying the vaccine. (It addresses “will the vaccine change my DNA” and “will it effect fertility”, but not... what if I do catch COVID during those four months, which is the point of the study).

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    3. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 27 Mar 2021

      I’m definitely ok with using natural, unavoidable scarcities (like launching this in December when as college students were not going to be eligible soon) or discussing launching it someplace with no access to vaccines (though I am for vaccinating globally ASAP). But now? Here?🤨

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      zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 27 Mar 2021

      Also, we already have a a lot of data on vaccines blunting transmission, and I am not even convinced this study (testing close-contacts of college students when a lot of spread happens in mass events like parties etc.) will give us anything more precise than what we already know.

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        1. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 27 Mar 2021

          College students are low-risk but they are not zero risk, and Long Covid is a (not that well-understood) thing of some prevalance (maybe less than reported but it is a thing. It is real). Dunno. We have existing answers, this won’t give us more precision imo, and it is a risk.

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        1. Chris Jeter‏ @ChrisJeter 27 Mar 2021
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          This is ridiculously unethical. In certain concentrations, this can effect herd immunity in that community. Someone needs to stop this...

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        1. tracey durning‏ @traceydurning 27 Mar 2021
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          That's my question. What additional information do you imagine they're trying to glean from this ?

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        1. Dr. Susan Walden‏ @chemdocmommy 27 Mar 2021
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          This makes no sense. Close contacts of college students will have other contacts besides those...and not all with vaxxed people.

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        1. Ben Shoemaker‏ @b3nshoe 27 Mar 2021
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          Really, where is this? Haven't seen anything that's particularly conclusive.

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