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    1. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 27 Mar 2021

      An NIH-led study plans to assess transmission after vaccination by asking college students to delay vaccination for four months. To me, this seems neither necessary nor ethically justifiable, and the study design probably can’t even answer their question.https://www.medpagetoday.com/infectiousdisease/covid19vaccine/91832 …

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    2. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 27 Mar 2021

      I looked at the enrollment page, and it has not a word about the effects of delaying the vaccine. (It addresses “will the vaccine change my DNA” and “will it effect fertility”, but not... what if I do catch COVID during those four months, which is the point of the study).

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      zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 27 Mar 2021

      I’m definitely ok with using natural, unavoidable scarcities (like launching this in December when as college students were not going to be eligible soon) or discussing launching it someplace with no access to vaccines (though I am for vaccinating globally ASAP). But now? Here?🤨

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        2. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 27 Mar 2021

          Also, we already have a a lot of data on vaccines blunting transmission, and I am not even convinced this study (testing close-contacts of college students when a lot of spread happens in mass events like parties etc.) will give us anything more precise than what we already know.

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        3. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 27 Mar 2021

          College students are low-risk but they are not zero risk, and Long Covid is a (not that well-understood) thing of some prevalance (maybe less than reported but it is a thing. It is real). Dunno. We have existing answers, this won’t give us more precision imo, and it is a risk.

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        1. Amanda W‏ @mandyleev 27 Mar 2021
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          Yes, I have no clue how this passed an ethics board. Someone is going to die because of this, or become disabled due to long Covid. Not most, but even one person is too many.

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        1. Evaluator Speculator‏ @MarwarWarrior 27 Mar 2021
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          It would have profound effects For global health if it was found that a single dosewas suitable for suppressing transmission significantly. Vaccine availability would improve dramatically.

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        1. Jeanie‏ @Jeanie_McD 27 Mar 2021
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          America has a whole country upstairs engaging in this experiment due to vaccine scarcity. Surely 30M or so participants is enough?

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        2. Piranga‏ @RRcandid 27 Mar 2021
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          Scarcity is not over just b/c groups have become eligible. There isn’t currently enough vaccine for everyone who wants a shot, and there probably won’t be until the end of May. These kids are just volunteering to put themselves at either the front vs back of the line.

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        3. Piranga‏ @RRcandid 27 Mar 2021
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          Given the 4-month duration, it seems that it will overlap a period when all students could have gotten the shot even at the back of the US line, but those shots will instead be used globally, and probably on higher-risk individuals.

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