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    1. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 24 Mar 2021

      A common theme among people who oppose—what I think of as sensible, temporary—pandemic restrictions is that it's not justified by science but just part of a plan to make social controls permanent. Bloomberg: "Lemme help you there". 🙄pic.twitter.com/HPw6oNtiiE

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    2. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 24 Mar 2021

      The obvious historic fact is that all pandemics end—they did even before vaccination. This one, too, will end. The question before us is how: if we vaccinate rapidly and globally, it will end with much less suffering. Alternative: acute crisis ends, but with much more suffering.

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      zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 24 Mar 2021

      It's been terrible, but it's a coronavirus against which we now have multiple excellent vaccines, folks. There is clearly uncertainty and debate over what it will look like in its later (likely endemic) phase, but it will not be a pandemic like now.

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        1. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 24 Mar 2021

          Let's shore up our public health infrastructure? Yes. Let's study what went wrong so we can meet the next challenge better? Yes. Let's get through the rest of this with minimum possible suffering? YES. Permanent pandemic from a coronavirus we can vaccinate against? Come on.🙄

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        1. Ian S‏ @silverstarTO 24 Mar 2021
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          This is so disappointing. The media has failed us. In fact every institution has failed miserably on one way or another, media, government, science (at least the communication), public health. Everyday citizens have done their part.

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        2. Perry Ismangil‏ @ismangil 24 Mar 2021
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          If every pandemic is different (as I've read), is it even possible to prepare for the next one - as we can't even guess what's that like?

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        3. K. Chen‏ @tznkai 24 Mar 2021
          Replying to @ismangil @zeynep

          Build up more governmental capacity, literal and metaphorical infrastructure. We're going to need doctors, scientists and trucks for the next one, whatever it is.

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        1. Jenne Raub‏ @jenneraub 24 Mar 2021
          Replying to @zeynep

          I appreciate your reasonable point of view (and tend to agree with you), but where is Bloomberg getting this idea to begin with, and why are they running a headline affirming people's worst fears?

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        1. Henrique‏ @gomes_ha 24 Mar 2021
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          Henrique Retweeted Marc Lipsitch

          But isn't there a related worry that, without proper safety protocols for labs around the world, we may be witnessing intermittent accidents? (whether this pandemic was the result such an accident or not is not crucial for this question):https://twitter.com/mlipsitch/status/1373978645560229890?s=20 …

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          .@alisonannyoung has been one among the most active, persistent, and fair-minded reporters covering lab accidents in the US @USATODAY. This long piece makes the serious case for investigating poss lab origin for #SARSCoV2. https://www.usatoday.com/in-depth/opinion/2021/03/22/why-covid-lab-leak-theory-wuhan-shouldnt-dismissed-column/4765985001/ ….
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        2. Puntosmx‏ @Puntosmx 24 Mar 2021
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          A vaccine that is effective only 80% of the time, has an expected efficacy of 6 to 8 months only, and is useless against more than one strain is not "excellent". It's useless. Virus has already mutated. It took it 1 year. Our immune system is better for this.

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        2. (((DavidLieberman)))‏ @davidilieberman 24 Mar 2021
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          I believe the point is: sufficiently widespread flouting of sensible pandemic social behaviors significantly heightens the risk of a variant that can evade the current vaccines in our arsenal, thereby prolonging the pandemic phase.

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        3. (((DavidLieberman)))‏ @davidilieberman 24 Mar 2021
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          My wife summarizes current medical research for a living. Just yesterday she worked on a study showing that the AZ vaccine is not especially effective in preventing healthy adults from infection by one of the South Africa variants.

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