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    1. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 24 Mar 2021

      A common theme among people who oppose—what I think of as sensible, temporary—pandemic restrictions is that it's not justified by science but just part of a plan to make social controls permanent. Bloomberg: "Lemme help you there". 🙄pic.twitter.com/HPw6oNtiiE

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      zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 24 Mar 2021

      The obvious historic fact is that all pandemics end—they did even before vaccination. This one, too, will end. The question before us is how: if we vaccinate rapidly and globally, it will end with much less suffering. Alternative: acute crisis ends, but with much more suffering.

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        2. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 24 Mar 2021

          It's been terrible, but it's a coronavirus against which we now have multiple excellent vaccines, folks. There is clearly uncertainty and debate over what it will look like in its later (likely endemic) phase, but it will not be a pandemic like now.

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        3. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 24 Mar 2021

          Let's shore up our public health infrastructure? Yes. Let's study what went wrong so we can meet the next challenge better? Yes. Let's get through the rest of this with minimum possible suffering? YES. Permanent pandemic from a coronavirus we can vaccinate against? Come on.🙄

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        1. Andrea Bitar‏ @andrea_s_bitar 24 Mar 2021
          Replying to @zeynep

          That’s what I wonder when people preach variant doomsday. What happened in every other pandemic in human history, without a vaccine in a year??

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        2. DR_O_oDR                              ¯\_(ツ)_/¯‏ @DRO_oDR 24 Mar 2021
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          Not _all_ pandemics end(I mean, in the end all will...). This one probably will, but don't forget about e.g. HIV.

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        3. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 24 Mar 2021
          Replying to @DRO_oDR

          True, HIV is a terrible retrovirus we have no vaccine against! But even there, we do have effective therapeutics (yes despite all the inequality and lack of access which pertains to other diseases as well).

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        2. alexschmidt‏ @alexschmidt 24 Mar 2021
          Replying to @zeynep

          True but sometimes they last for hundreds of years. I think most people understand "permanent" pandemic to mean "for the rest of your life," which, on an individual level, is just as bad as forever.

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        3. Dan  🐶‏ @realDan203 24 Mar 2021
          Replying to @alexschmidt @zeynep

          Highly unlikely with our current technology. Now that this mRNA technology has been proven the next virus could have a vaccine available in a matter of months. They're already testing a booster that can handle the variants. In the past this stuff took years.

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        1. larru burd‏ @BurdLarryes 24 Mar 2021
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          This really seems right, that this pandemic will end. It may be hard to see that now (even I can't quite make it out) but, yes, it will be pretty much over at some point. Then we will have to deal with making a new "normal" if there is even such a thing at all.

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        2. Alan Lindsey‏ @AzrlIndsey 24 Mar 2021
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          Yes, pandemics do end and the U.S. may leave that phase sooner than many think. The current trend indicates death rates similar to flu as soon as the end of April.pic.twitter.com/0JeHZpHu76

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        3. Ryan Landay‏ @ryan_landay 24 Mar 2021
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          This is extremely misleading since you started from the most recent peak.

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