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    1. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 23 Mar 2021

      zeynep tufekci Retweeted zeynep tufekci

      Fuming. I supported a US trial of AstraZeneca so it could undo the *unnecessary* damage to vaccine confidence from their botched initial rollout. Yesterday, I was cautious because, again, press release, no data. Turns out AZ is botching this rollout, too.https://twitter.com/zeynep/status/1374060809144438785 …

      zeynep tufekci added,

      zeynep tufekciVerified account @zeynep
      Replying to @notdred @ashishkjha
      Yes. That's why I supported waiting for this trial to conclude here. The world needed this. That said, I'm waiting for their paper, to be honest, after the last round of announcement-by-press-release by Oxford/AZ turned into "oh yeah also that dosing thing" etc. But looks good!
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    2. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 23 Mar 2021

      zeynep tufekci Retweeted Kai Kupferschmidt

      The level of irresponsibility on display here is unforgivable—especially since their vaccine seems fine! It's delivering in the real world, and the actual trial results are excellent! But they keep screwing around with confidence with their callous hubris.https://twitter.com/kakape/status/1374338061157421057 …

      zeynep tufekci added,

      Kai KupferschmidtVerified account @kakape
      Fauci: “It really is unfortunate that this happened. You know this is really what you call an unforced error, because the fact is, this is very likely a very good vaccine and this kind of thing does as you say do nothing, but really cast some doubt about the vaccines …"
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    3. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 23 Mar 2021

      The short of it is the AZ final trial results look fine, but for some unfathomable reason, they did a press release on *earlier* results instead of waiting 48 hours to release latest ones (which may have a few more negative events, but are still great).https://www.statnews.com/2021/03/23/astrazeneca-may-have-used-outdated-information-in-announcing-covid19-vaccine-results/ …

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    4. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 23 Mar 2021

      zeynep tufekci Retweeted

      Yes, exactly this. There will likely be no accountability for a series of terrible and completely unavoidable actions. Next time we blame people for falling for misinformation, remember the role they played in contributing to this environment of mistrust. https://twitter.com/mathnegative/status/1374351913341231111 …

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    5. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 23 Mar 2021

      Can't describe how angry I think we should be at AstraZeneca right now. I hope for an investigation on the whole thing from start, including what if any role/involvement Oxford had on the botched side of things. The vaccine is fine! People in charge need to face accountability.

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    6. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 23 Mar 2021

      zeynep tufekci Retweeted atlantic triangle

      Yes. In my view, US institutions have generally been doing an excellent job with the vaccine trials. Credit/recognition where due.https://twitter.com/atlantictriangl/status/1374359120472649729 …

      zeynep tufekci added,

      atlantic triangle @atlantictriangl
      Replying to @atlantictriangl @maylennial1982 @zeynep
      On the other hand, there's some good news in that the DSMB is doing its due diligence
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      zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 23 Mar 2021

      The tragedy is this all could have been avoided if AstraZeneca waited 48 hours and released a paper along with their press release, and had not called essentially outdated results "interim" (they had newer results at hand!). Repeated unnecessary missteps damaging a good vaccine!

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        2. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 23 Mar 2021

          zeynep tufekci Retweeted Ashish K. Jha, MD, MPH

          This is how I feel. If it were available to me/my loved ones, I would not hesitate. The AZ vaccine itself is already delivering excellent results. But vaccination requires building confidence, not just good vaccines, and process matters. See Europe, too.https://twitter.com/ashishkjha/status/1374351260191649794 …

          zeynep tufekci added,

          Ashish K. Jha, MD, MPHVerified account @ashishkjha
          From everything I know, the AZ vaccine is a good vaccine that I would be comfortable having my family get From everything I know, AZ's incompetence at communicating trial results, working with regulatory agencies, etc. is stunning That's what we are seeing on display
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        3. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 23 Mar 2021

          zeynep tufekci Retweeted ala mode

          I honestly do NOT think there's anything else wrong! The US Data and Safety Monitoring Board has the (more final) results, and it really doesn't look like there is anything wrong besides AZ's repeated errors in the public-facing handling of a good vaccine.https://twitter.com/pvancleaf/status/1374390973812252674 …

          zeynep tufekci added,

          ala mode @pvancleaf
          Replying to @zeynep
          I don’t understand why they didn’t wait the extra 48 hours. This seems like such a massive oversight that one can’t help thinking there’s more to the story. I’m not doubting the efficacy of the AZ vaccine, but perhaps were not getting the full scoop of what’s going in the company
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        2. Shaun Brown‏ @stbrown80 23 Mar 2021
          Replying to @zeynep

          It is really questionable why UK govt blocked Oxford-Merck deal in favor of AZ.

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        3. Regretting‏ @R3gretting 23 Mar 2021
          Replying to @stbrown80 @zeynep

          Can't do business with a German/American company! 😉

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        2. Na Sirf Musiqi  🧡‏ @nasirfmusiqi 23 Mar 2021
          Replying to @zeynep

          I wonder if this is partly motivated by reputation management for hte British audience. Only the good AZ news (of which there is genuinely plenty, of course!) gets any real coverage here so the 48 hour advantage could leave the 79%/100% figures as the default perception here.

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        3. Na Sirf Musiqi  🧡‏ @nasirfmusiqi 23 Mar 2021
          Replying to @nasirfmusiqi @zeynep

          Just to illustrate the point...here's one of the generally better outlets today! https://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/astrazeneca-vaccine-covid-oxford-b1821072.html …pic.twitter.com/Kor7w5EeQ3

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        2. Jesse Grauman‏ @jessegrauman 23 Mar 2021
          Replying to @zeynep

          Do you think DSMB tried to resolve this privately with AZ and went public after AZ said they were going ahead with their release anyway? Obviously going public is a big deal and will undermine confidence even if AZ releases newer data confirming outdated results.

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        3. Joseph‏ @old_bro_hubbard 23 Mar 2021
          Replying to @jessegrauman @zeynep

          That's exactly what the WSJ reported this morning. They reported that NIAID brought their concerns about the data to AZ over the weekend, but for some reason AZ went ahead with their announcement yesterday, forcing NIAID to make a statement. An unforced and baffling error.

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        1. Frederic Py‏ @Frel_ 23 Mar 2021
          Replying to @zeynep

          My thoughts exactly Ever since their contractual spats with EU, it feels like AZ management is acting as if they want to look fishy and only thing that kinda save them is that their vaccine is OK

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        2. Rob Blackie‏Verified account @robblackie_oo 23 Mar 2021
          Replying to @zeynep

          That would be ideal. But isn't there a regulatory issues here? ie As a publicly listed company AZ has to release as soon as possible after it knows trial results - to avoid insider trading. Admittedly that 'something' doesn't have to be this.

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        3. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 23 Mar 2021
          Replying to @robblackie_oo

          If there was any stock manipulation concern, it would run, I'd hope, towards not releasing outdated results without noting they were outdated. Baffling.

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