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    1. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 23 Mar 2021

      zeynep tufekci Retweeted zeynep tufekci

      Fuming. I supported a US trial of AstraZeneca so it could undo the *unnecessary* damage to vaccine confidence from their botched initial rollout. Yesterday, I was cautious because, again, press release, no data. Turns out AZ is botching this rollout, too.https://twitter.com/zeynep/status/1374060809144438785 …

      zeynep tufekci added,

      zeynep tufekciVerified account @zeynep
      Replying to @notdred @ashishkjha
      Yes. That's why I supported waiting for this trial to conclude here. The world needed this. That said, I'm waiting for their paper, to be honest, after the last round of announcement-by-press-release by Oxford/AZ turned into "oh yeah also that dosing thing" etc. But looks good!
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    2. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 23 Mar 2021

      zeynep tufekci Retweeted Kai Kupferschmidt

      The level of irresponsibility on display here is unforgivable—especially since their vaccine seems fine! It's delivering in the real world, and the actual trial results are excellent! But they keep screwing around with confidence with their callous hubris.https://twitter.com/kakape/status/1374338061157421057 …

      zeynep tufekci added,

      Kai KupferschmidtVerified account @kakape
      Fauci: “It really is unfortunate that this happened. You know this is really what you call an unforced error, because the fact is, this is very likely a very good vaccine and this kind of thing does as you say do nothing, but really cast some doubt about the vaccines …"
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    3. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 23 Mar 2021

      The short of it is the AZ final trial results look fine, but for some unfathomable reason, they did a press release on *earlier* results instead of waiting 48 hours to release latest ones (which may have a few more negative events, but are still great).https://www.statnews.com/2021/03/23/astrazeneca-may-have-used-outdated-information-in-announcing-covid19-vaccine-results/ …

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    4. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 23 Mar 2021

      zeynep tufekci Retweeted

      Yes, exactly this. There will likely be no accountability for a series of terrible and completely unavoidable actions. Next time we blame people for falling for misinformation, remember the role they played in contributing to this environment of mistrust. https://twitter.com/mathnegative/status/1374351913341231111 …

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      zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 23 Mar 2021

      Can't describe how angry I think we should be at AstraZeneca right now. I hope for an investigation on the whole thing from start, including what if any role/involvement Oxford had on the botched side of things. The vaccine is fine! People in charge need to face accountability.

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        2. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 23 Mar 2021

          zeynep tufekci Retweeted atlantic triangle

          Yes. In my view, US institutions have generally been doing an excellent job with the vaccine trials. Credit/recognition where due.https://twitter.com/atlantictriangl/status/1374359120472649729 …

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          atlantic triangle @atlantictriangl
          Replying to @atlantictriangl @maylennial1982 @zeynep
          On the other hand, there's some good news in that the DSMB is doing its due diligence
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        3. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 23 Mar 2021

          The tragedy is this all could have been avoided if AstraZeneca waited 48 hours and released a paper along with their press release, and had not called essentially outdated results "interim" (they had newer results at hand!). Repeated unnecessary missteps damaging a good vaccine!

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        4. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 23 Mar 2021

          zeynep tufekci Retweeted Ashish K. Jha, MD, MPH

          This is how I feel. If it were available to me/my loved ones, I would not hesitate. The AZ vaccine itself is already delivering excellent results. But vaccination requires building confidence, not just good vaccines, and process matters. See Europe, too.https://twitter.com/ashishkjha/status/1374351260191649794 …

          zeynep tufekci added,

          Ashish K. Jha, MD, MPHVerified account @ashishkjha
          From everything I know, the AZ vaccine is a good vaccine that I would be comfortable having my family get From everything I know, AZ's incompetence at communicating trial results, working with regulatory agencies, etc. is stunning That's what we are seeing on display
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        5. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 23 Mar 2021

          zeynep tufekci Retweeted ala mode

          I honestly do NOT think there's anything else wrong! The US Data and Safety Monitoring Board has the (more final) results, and it really doesn't look like there is anything wrong besides AZ's repeated errors in the public-facing handling of a good vaccine.https://twitter.com/pvancleaf/status/1374390973812252674 …

          zeynep tufekci added,

          ala mode @pvancleaf
          Replying to @zeynep
          I don’t understand why they didn’t wait the extra 48 hours. This seems like such a massive oversight that one can’t help thinking there’s more to the story. I’m not doubting the efficacy of the AZ vaccine, but perhaps were not getting the full scoop of what’s going in the company
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        1. Joe Wills‏ @JoeWills87 23 Mar 2021
          Replying to @zeynep

          Is there an explainer anywhere on this whole saga? Quite confusing trying to keep up as a non-specialist!

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        1. Sam‏ @samantha7v 23 Mar 2021
          Replying to @zeynep

          I heard Oxford wanted to work with Merck but was forced by UK gov to work with AZ. Is that true? Also, how to we stop the irrational conspiracy theories that the US just doesn’t like the vaccine bc it’s inexpensive?

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        2. Leonardo Carella‏ @leonardocarella 23 Mar 2021
          Replying to @zeynep

          Government responsibilities shouldn't be overlooked either. The UK govt reportedly pushed for a deal with AZ, a relatively inexperienced company with vaccines, instead of Merck, Oxford's usual partner, because AZ was willing to priorities delivery to UK and Merck wasn't.

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        3. AlecWood‏ @AlecWood 23 Mar 2021
          Replying to @leonardocarella @zeynep

          We all know Merck could've left us with zero vaccines, why on earth would we have taken such a risk?

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        1. Trevor Haynes‏ @Trevor_Haynes 23 Mar 2021
          Replying to @zeynep

          I’m biased cause I am going to work for AZ this fall, but this all seems really silly. If the data is good and consistent with their other trials why are we *that* angry that they put their best numbers in a press release? Seems like standard pharma behavior.

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        1. Jo Shields‏ @directhex 23 Mar 2021
          Replying to @zeynep

          my sister works in clinical trials, and last time we spoke about AZ's fucked up trials - months ago! - she was absolutely livid, on behalf of her entire profession. This was when they fucked up dose sizes between trial groups due to xenophobia

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