Nothing wrong with a (sensible) amount of hand-washing but the issue is that our mitigations need a hierarchy of energy and resources. Deep cleaning is still a big thing, parks/beaches are still shut down. Clearly—very clearly—our stack was wrong-ordered.https://twitter.com/mr_james_c/status/1373721813058994177 …
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Also, it’s interesting how it’s places like Japan and South Korea and Hong Kong etc., whose scientists knew from day one that airborne transmission was a key route—disregarding global official guidance essentially—that managed to beat back outbreaks to get back to near normalcy.
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zeynep tufekci Retweeted Nicole Boyson
Yes. Exactly here, too. They “deep clean” the pool area. The incredible amount of energy and resources going into “deep cleaning” in a completely excessive manner while ventilation is essentially ignored or is an afterthought is the problem. A year in!https://twitter.com/nikir1/status/1373731838208933888 …
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Nicole Boyson @nikir1Replying to @zeynepI think of the money and time my daughter’s swim coaches are spending to deep clean the pool area every day and pray they don’t have to shut down the program. We have known for (quite!) a while about the lack of surface transmission, yet state-mandated hygiene theater continues.17 replies 357 retweets 1,496 likesShow this thread -
zeynep tufekci Retweeted eli b.
Yes. Many had been through SARS and they have top-notch infectious disease specialists and epidemiologist. Reading their documents from February/March of 2020 is mind-blowing. They went their own way. It’s all there.https://twitter.com/bilditup1/status/1373732446802415620 …
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I think it started with "we don't know so we'll do everything we know from the past." At the guidance level, we disregarded/delayed relevant expertise (Japan etc. did not). Personal level? I think it gave people a sense of control. https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2021/02/how-public-health-messaging-backfired/618147/ … https://twitter.com/M1k3ySCC/status/1373740261608726528 …pic.twitter.com/obXpZ5dkcD
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zeynep tufekci Retweeted SCDC
Sometimes people say "wait, doesn't everybody know airborne transmission is important?" If you follow the right experts on Twitter, I guess? Meanwhile, a library in one of the highest-educated US counties is "quarantining" returned books for seven days.https://twitter.com/SCDC87/status/1373755582214193157 …
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zeynep tufekci Retweeted LeftyLonghorn
As usual, examples pouring in... Not too surprised. I already hear from people, and look at many examples across the country including where I am: with three major research universities within a small radius. Excessive hygiene theater is very much alive.https://twitter.com/LeftyLonghorn/status/1373765212856279050 …
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zeynep tufekci Retweeted Jeff Lipshultz
I guess we can make this even worse with starting a lengthy, contentious thread on whether books can be called "isolated" or "quarantined" if we don't know about the infection status of the borrower.https://twitter.com/jeflip/status/1373767242383515656 …
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zeynep tufekci Retweeted chrisjohn
This is what I’ve heard from all over the US and most if the world, nonstop, for a year now—exceptions are countries that went their own way from very early on, on airborne transmission risks, like Japan, Taiwan, Hong Kong, South Korea, etc.https://twitter.com/chrisjohn_12345/status/1373825069215010819 …
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Replying to @zeynep
Are planes a low risk due to their air ventilation/filtration systems?
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Mostly. Also relatively strong masking rules. Exceptions get attention but terminal/boarding probably bigger risk than time in plane).
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Some airlines provide their passengers with food/snacks/drinks during flight. That’s when pretty much everyone takes off their masks.
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