Yes, feels like cold-comfort now as we are and have been late, but we're here. The new CDC director has already cited importance of aerosols as one of things that most surprised her—along with a good chunk of people, clearly. But this will bring in good changes for future.
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zeynep tufekci Retweeted James Clark 📈 📉¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Nothing wrong with a (sensible) amount of hand-washing but the issue is that our mitigations need a hierarchy of energy and resources. Deep cleaning is still a big thing, parks/beaches are still shut down. Clearly—very clearly—our stack was wrong-ordered.https://twitter.com/mr_james_c/status/1373721813058994177 …
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Also, it’s interesting how it’s places like Japan and South Korea and Hong Kong etc., whose scientists knew from day one that airborne transmission was a key route—disregarding global official guidance essentially—that managed to beat back outbreaks to get back to near normalcy.
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zeynep tufekci Retweeted Nicole Boyson
Yes. Exactly here, too. They “deep clean” the pool area. The incredible amount of energy and resources going into “deep cleaning” in a completely excessive manner while ventilation is essentially ignored or is an afterthought is the problem. A year in!https://twitter.com/nikir1/status/1373731838208933888 …
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Nicole Boyson @nikir1Replying to @zeynepI think of the money and time my daughter’s swim coaches are spending to deep clean the pool area every day and pray they don’t have to shut down the program. We have known for (quite!) a while about the lack of surface transmission, yet state-mandated hygiene theater continues.17 replies 357 retweets 1,496 likesShow this thread -
zeynep tufekci Retweeted eli b.
Yes. Many had been through SARS and they have top-notch infectious disease specialists and epidemiologist. Reading their documents from February/March of 2020 is mind-blowing. They went their own way. It’s all there.https://twitter.com/bilditup1/status/1373732446802415620 …
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I think it started with "we don't know so we'll do everything we know from the past." At the guidance level, we disregarded/delayed relevant expertise (Japan etc. did not). Personal level? I think it gave people a sense of control. https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2021/02/how-public-health-messaging-backfired/618147/ … https://twitter.com/M1k3ySCC/status/1373740261608726528 …pic.twitter.com/obXpZ5dkcD
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zeynep tufekci Retweeted SCDC
Sometimes people say "wait, doesn't everybody know airborne transmission is important?" If you follow the right experts on Twitter, I guess? Meanwhile, a library in one of the highest-educated US counties is "quarantining" returned books for seven days.https://twitter.com/SCDC87/status/1373755582214193157 …
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zeynep tufekci Retweeted LeftyLonghorn
As usual, examples pouring in... Not too surprised. I already hear from people, and look at many examples across the country including where I am: with three major research universities within a small radius. Excessive hygiene theater is very much alive.https://twitter.com/LeftyLonghorn/status/1373765212856279050 …
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Unclear to me how much fomite theatre is driven by concerns of legal liability combined w cherrypicking the most actionable guidance, or how much by evidence-based mitigation efforts at those research unis. At UCL, I believe ventilation was been mapped per room from early on.
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There might be an interesting study to be done comparing practices in potentially evidence-rich environments like universities across jurisdictions with different litigation risks.
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My experience is that, incredibly, universities are bad as any institution. At least they were when I last surveyed end of last November/December. Maybe it's gotten better? It was enormous hygiene theater in Fall 2020 season.
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Totally anecdotally, I found UCL made more lucid/early decisions than other unis, and know that we took considerable internal scientific advice. From discussions with colleagues that's not the same across the UK—but also mitigated by limited 2020-21 f2f in UK HE.
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The main change to all rooms was was that they were equipped with sensors for ventilation (& audited/adjusted). I think it's very unlikely that someone in the UK could sue their uni over whether or not they had fomite control, and that could play a role. I don't know about the US
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