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Complex systems, wicked problems. Society, technology, science and more. @UNC professor. @NYTimes columnist. My newsletter is @insight: http://www.theinsight.org 

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    1. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 21 Mar 2021

      Interesting science & sociology of science at once. This year will clearly force an updating of our understanding of role of aerosol transmission for respiratory pathogens. PLUS it's almost text-book Kuhnian in how it's happening: resistance, "epicycling" and then paradigm shift.

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    2. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 21 Mar 2021

      Yes, feels like cold-comfort now as we are and have been late, but we're here. The new CDC director has already cited importance of aerosols as one of things that most surprised her—along with a good chunk of people, clearly. But this will bring in good changes for future.

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    3. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 21 Mar 2021

      zeynep tufekci Retweeted James Clark  📈 📉¯\_(ツ)_/¯

      Nothing wrong with a (sensible) amount of hand-washing but the issue is that our mitigations need a hierarchy of energy and resources. Deep cleaning is still a big thing, parks/beaches are still shut down. Clearly—very clearly—our stack was wrong-ordered.https://twitter.com/mr_james_c/status/1373721813058994177 …

      zeynep tufekci added,

      James Clark  📈 📉¯\_(ツ)_/¯ @mr_james_c
      The UK is going have a hell of a time overcoming a year's worth of sunk costs on handwashing messaging. https://twitter.com/zeynep/status/1373721060282089476 …
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    4. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 21 Mar 2021

      Also, it’s interesting how it’s places like Japan and South Korea and Hong Kong etc., whose scientists knew from day one that airborne transmission was a key route—disregarding global official guidance essentially—that managed to beat back outbreaks to get back to near normalcy.

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    5. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 21 Mar 2021

      zeynep tufekci Retweeted Nicole Boyson

      Yes. Exactly here, too. They “deep clean” the pool area. The incredible amount of energy and resources going into “deep cleaning” in a completely excessive manner while ventilation is essentially ignored or is an afterthought is the problem. A year in!https://twitter.com/nikir1/status/1373731838208933888 …

      zeynep tufekci added,

      Nicole Boyson @nikir1
      Replying to @zeynep
      I think of the money and time my daughter’s swim coaches are spending to deep clean the pool area every day and pray they don’t have to shut down the program. We have known for (quite!) a while about the lack of surface transmission, yet state-mandated hygiene theater continues.
      17 replies 357 retweets 1,496 likes
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    6. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 21 Mar 2021

      zeynep tufekci Retweeted eli b.

      Yes. Many had been through SARS and they have top-notch infectious disease specialists and epidemiologist. Reading their documents from February/March of 2020 is mind-blowing. They went their own way. It’s all there.https://twitter.com/bilditup1/status/1373732446802415620 …

      zeynep tufekci added,

      eli b. @bilditup1
      Replying to @zeynep
      I'm still not sure why the global orgs were so wrong on this. Did these countries have special institutional knowledge (e.g. from previous outbreaks) that just wasn't considered by the rest of the world? What happened?
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    7. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 21 Mar 2021

      I think it started with "we don't know so we'll do everything we know from the past." At the guidance level, we disregarded/delayed relevant expertise (Japan etc. did not). Personal level? I think it gave people a sense of control. https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2021/02/how-public-health-messaging-backfired/618147/ … https://twitter.com/M1k3ySCC/status/1373740261608726528 …pic.twitter.com/obXpZ5dkcD

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    8. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 21 Mar 2021

      zeynep tufekci Retweeted SCDC

      Sometimes people say "wait, doesn't everybody know airborne transmission is important?" If you follow the right experts on Twitter, I guess? Meanwhile, a library in one of the highest-educated US counties is "quarantining" returned books for seven days.https://twitter.com/SCDC87/status/1373755582214193157 …

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      SCDC @SCDC87
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    9. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 21 Mar 2021

      zeynep tufekci Retweeted LeftyLonghorn

      As usual, examples pouring in... Not too surprised. I already hear from people, and look at many examples across the country including where I am: with three major research universities within a small radius. Excessive hygiene theater is very much alive.https://twitter.com/LeftyLonghorn/status/1373765212856279050 …

      zeynep tufekci added,

      LeftyLonghorn @LeftyLonghorn
      Replying to @zeynep @jonathanchait
      My kids have been doing face to face school. All paper assignments (tests, quizzes, etc) must be quarantined for 3 days before the teacher can grade them.
      8 replies 56 retweets 456 likes
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    10. Jeff Lipshultz‏ @jeflip 21 Mar 2021
      Replying to @zeynep

      Boston Public Library is quarantining returns for 4 days... https://www.bpl.org/news/bpl-to-go/  But also no late fees so that's nicepic.twitter.com/KFan5w6iGg

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      zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 21 Mar 2021
      Replying to @jeflip

      Apparently this is common in many places. Not surprised, sadly.

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        1. Jeff Lipshultz‏ @jeflip 21 Mar 2021
          Replying to @zeynep

          They also still do the forehead temperature scan when you come inside to do returns/pickups. 🤷‍♂️

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        2. Dr. Kara‏ @KaraPersists 21 Mar 2021
          Replying to @zeynep @jeflip

          Curious about your thoughts on the REALM research, which is behind many libraries’ decisions to isolate returned materials. Test 4 showed the virus still detectable on stacked materials after 6 days.https://www.oclc.org/realm/research.html …

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        3. Herbert Edge‏ @herbert_edge 22 Mar 2021
          Replying to @KaraPersists @zeynep @jeflip

          I thought the virus could only live 3 days on a surface?

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