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    1. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 17 Mar 2021

      To folks saying AZ is an inferior vaccine so we shouldn't give it away even if we can't use it. "Not approved yet because US trial not concluded" doesn't mean inferior. Novavax looks spectacular (from trials elsewhere) but also not approved here because trial not concluded...+

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    2. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 17 Mar 2021

      ... but it's definitely true that AZ rollout has been a spectacular mess, but that's separate. (I will probably rant on that in my newsletter). So far 11 million doses in UK, ~6 in Europe, 500,000 in Canada have been administered... It's not a vaccine just for poor/brown folk.

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    3. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 17 Mar 2021

      We can figure out the politics of where AZ should go. There are countries with large outbreaks (especially of that terrible B117 variant) in Europe, for example. Other countries elsewhere may ask for them, solving the "optics" issue. What's on us is to demand they get used, now.

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    4. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 17 Mar 2021

      zeynep tufekci Retweeted 4030Lisa

      Because it's not endangering anyone. It's approved in the UK, Canada, EU and through the WHO coalition, in 140+ countries and has been given to 17 million people in UK and EU. The US FDA requires the trials it requires, and that's a different discussion.https://twitter.com/4030lisa/status/1372230955973410816 …

      zeynep tufekci added,

      4030Lisa @4030lisa
      Replying to @zeynep
      Why would you choose to endanger others with a vaccine that has not gone through even the minimal rigors of safety testing we currently have? If we cannot release it here because of safety reasons, it should not be sent to jeopardize others for safety reasons elsewhere,either.
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    5. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 17 Mar 2021

      zeynep tufekci Retweeted Chad Crichton

      I don't have a strong opinion on where they go—there are many choices, but yes, whatever is going on in EU is an issue. However, as you can see below, Canada—facing a potential B117 surge in many locations—has approved them, would use them, and needs them.https://twitter.com/chadcrichton/status/1372239202293780480 …

      zeynep tufekci added,

      Chad Crichton @chadcrichton
      Replying to @chadcrichton @jaimedash @zeynep
      People I know in their 40s in the U.S. have already gotten a shot, Alaska's letting 16 year olds sign up, and here in Ontario my Mom (73) can't even sign up for an appointment yet. Eventually Canadians are going to get mad at our doses coming from Europe & India but not Michigan.
      9 replies 13 retweets 152 likes
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    6. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 17 Mar 2021

      zeynep tufekci Retweeted Tanja Maier

      Folks, we have ~60 million doses *sitting* in our warehouses in Ohio and Baltimore for vaccines that aren't approved here, whose US trials haven't concluded, that will not be approved till too late. They are approved in Canada and her mom needs one now.https://twitter.com/tanjamaier17/status/1372243923209441283 …

      zeynep tufekci added,

      Tanja Maier @tanjamaier17
      Replying to @zeynep
      Canada is desperate. My mom is 76 stage IV cancer in Toronto and won’t be allowed to sign up until April 15. On March 15 they opened sign ups for 80+.
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    7. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 17 Mar 2021

      I know, it's hard to mentally adjust: last few months have been dominated by the dire, ongoing shortages. It's hard to believe. But the math is clear: we will have more the enough vaccines for anyone who wants one here in the US sooner than AZ would be approved here in the US.

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    8. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 17 Mar 2021

      zeynep tufekci Retweeted Wanting better

      I get this, and there is certainly a problem with whatever European countries think they are doing (I can't make sense of it) and the way AstraZeneca was rolled out was suboptimal. But that's a different problem—not a reason to let vaccines go to waste.https://twitter.com/cschneider8224/status/1372245248374579201 …

      zeynep tufekci added,

      Wanting better @cschneider8224
      Replying to @zeynep
      Unfortunately, the optics on this are very bad, now that the blood clotting concerns have been flagged in Europe. It doesn't really matter if there is a real connection or not, sending any vaccines to poor countries that are under scrutiny in Europe could seed conspiracies.
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    9. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 17 Mar 2021

      zeynep tufekci Retweeted Arieh Kovler

      Yes, there are multiple ways to ship those doses gathering dust out now, even with some guarantees for replacement (we won't need! we really will not need!) for if and when they are finally approved here and there is some (I can't imagine how) urgent need.https://twitter.com/ariehkovler/status/1372254589332946944 …

      zeynep tufekci added,

      Arieh KovlerVerified account @ariehkovler
      Replying to @zeynep
      Even the UK is now expecting a shortage of AZ doses due to production issues. 100% agree. I'm sure they'd take the US stock immediately and replace it in May if needed. https://twitter.com/DarrenEuronews/status/1372250786193940481 …
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    10. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 17 Mar 2021

      zeynep tufekci Retweeted Navin Pokala

      Another option. Just give it to Covax—the global initiative to vaccinate the world—and let them handle the rest. We don't have to figure out all the optics; we just have to commit to immediately letting go of doses we can't use that can do good elsewhere.https://twitter.com/NavinPokala/status/1372279931770667017 …

      zeynep tufekci added,

      Navin Pokala @NavinPokala
      Replying to @ngaio1819 @zeynep
      That's a good idea. Return the unused doses to AstraZeneca, and let AZ donate to Covax. Quietly. Otherwise headlines will be "America "donates" rejected vaccines to 3rd world"
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      zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 17 Mar 2021

      zeynep tufekci Retweeted Evan

      Not so burdensome, but it'd be awesome if the "how dare you propose to dump an inferior vaccine elsewhere" people could directly duke it out with the "yes we have enough and those aren't approved but what if we ever need those great vaccines here?" folk.😁https://twitter.com/GoMrPickles/status/1372233543728865280 …

      zeynep tufekci added,

      Evan @GoMrPickles
      Replying to @zeynep
      I appreciate you, your writing, and your otherworldly patience in wading through this adversity every day.
      2:05 PM - 17 Mar 2021
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        2. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 18 Mar 2021

          zeynep tufekci Retweeted Danny Alberta

          The number of people who claim it's bad to call for releasing vaccines approved by large number of countries around the world and have been administered *checks notes* mostly to people in UK, Canada & Europe is amazing.https://twitter.com/DannyAlberta77/status/1372567922497908739 …

          zeynep tufekci added,

          Danny Alberta @DannyAlberta77
          Sending the surplus AZ vaccines which may cause blood clots disproportionately to 3rd Wirld, mostly black nations isn’t what I think the disciples of “woke” should have in mind for charitable causes. https://twitter.com/zeynep/status/1372164756648423431 …
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        3. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 18 Mar 2021

          Yes, folks, we're all aware some European countries have paused for a day to investigate reports of clots and AZ vaccine. If they find anything negative, of course the vaccine will be suspended everywhere. Otherwise, it will continue being administered in Europe, UK and Canada.

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        4. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 18 Mar 2021

          zeynep tufekci Retweeted Jeff Mason

          And two great updates! European Medical Agency's Safety Committee studying AZ clotting reports says they "found no evidence of a quality or a batch issue”, says to continue vaccination. And US starts to release our stockpiles (that we will not get to use!)https://twitter.com/jeffmason1/status/1372576853341442051 …

          zeynep tufekci added,

          Jeff MasonVerified account @jeffmason1
          SCOOP: The U.S. plans to send 2.5 million doses of AstraZeneca COVID-19 vaccine to Mexico and 1.5 million doses to Canada, administration officials tell me. The loan does not affect @POTUS goal to have enough vaccine for all U.S. adults by the end of May.
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        5. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 18 Mar 2021

          Thrilled to hear that US is releasing (can't otherwise be used) vaccines to Canada & Mexico. We must do *everything* we need to do to increase the supply. Nobody, anywhere, should have to wait until 2022 to be offered a safe and effective vaccine against COVID-19. We can do this.

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        6. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 18 Mar 2021

          zeynep tufekci Retweeted Noah Weiland

          Release them! Yeay! There is more AZ in a Baltimore facility, too, I believe, and we should produce as many vaccines as we possibly can including other ones (J&J is using Merck facilities to produce more here!). Everyone who wants a vaccine should get one in 2021. It’s possible.https://twitter.com/noahweiland/status/1372643037403357194 …

          zeynep tufekci added,

          Noah WeilandVerified account @noahweiland
          The White House is saying 7 million doses are "releasable." But officials say that's a small part of the picture. Around 35-40 million are bottled in Ohio, roughly half of which are now releasable or imminently releasable, and the rest within weeks. https://twitter.com/politico/status/1372610201216552962 …
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        7. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 18 Mar 2021

          zeynep tufekci Retweeted NYT Health

          So happy that my piece is already slightly outdated! (Doses—that we cannot use here—already being released to Canada and Mexico. More should go. Plus, later in the year, we’ll have more of an excess when we get even more supply!)https://twitter.com/NYTHealth/status/1372752903115472898 …

          zeynep tufekci added,

          NYT HealthVerified account @NYTHealth
          In @nytopinion: Why is the United States sitting on tens of millions of doses of AstraZeneca vaccines that could immediately be distributed elsewhere? Other countries desperately need them right now, writes @zeynep. https://nyti.ms/3cKqvFb 
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        8. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 19 Mar 2021

          Two more articles, @ryanlcooper in The Week and @dandrezner in Washington Post. Both argue that it helps US "soft-power" to help vaccinate the rest of the world. If that moves the gears, let that move the gears, too. 😀 https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/2021/03/18/most-important-foreign-policy-decision-2021/ … and https://theweek.com/articles/972786/biden-wants-make-america-global-leader-again-start-vaccines ….pic.twitter.com/RrdaXhAOz4

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        2. Arieh Kovler‏Verified account @ariehkovler 17 Mar 2021
          Replying to @zeynep

          Could be the same people, like the EU countries who insist it's an inferior, flawed and dangerous vaccine while trying to sue AstraZeneca for not delivering enough of it!

          1 reply 1 retweet 9 likes
        3. Willa D'Peapole‏ @Fernmonkey 17 Mar 2021
          Replying to @ariehkovler @zeynep

          Me, a European who's already written off the summer and doesn't expect to see any vaccine until 2022: please let me take the damn thing, just give me half a warfarin and I promise I won't try to shave my legs

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        2. Nomadic Quantum  🇨🇦  😷 💉 🦕‏ @nogenderid 17 Mar 2021
          Replying to @zeynep

          It's hard not to come to the conclusion that the rest of the world is an afterthought to many Americans.

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        3. Willa D'Peapole‏ @Fernmonkey 17 Mar 2021
          Replying to @nogenderid @zeynep

          'Afterthought' might be exaggerating the amount of attention paid by many Americans to the existence of the rest of the world.

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