Many places face B117, a terrible variant against which these vaccines show little/no loss of efficacy. BUT CRUCIALLY LOSS OF EFFICACY AGAINST MILD/MODERATE DISEASE DOESN'T MEAN "NO PROTECTION." Immune system is not a seawall that just gets washed over. https://twitter.com/peteyreplies/status/1372166204606009344 …
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zeynep tufekci Retweeted Horny & Vaccinated ANTIFA Secretary
How is this remotely defensible "ANTIFA" secretary? We are sitting on doses we will never use. The manufacturing is here, going well and has three separate sources. People are dying right now. Plus, transmissible variants need *early* intervention. Now.https://twitter.com/MKMaybe/status/1372168083977158660 …
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I hear the people saying "why can't I get an appointment now." These vaccines gathering dust don't help because US trial isn't even concluded and it will not be approved before every eligible American is already offered an appointment. It won't help us. Let it do some good.
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zeynep tufekci Retweeted Barry Pearson
Already made! By NYT reporting, we have 30 to 60 million doses of a vaccine that will not be approved in time to help the US supply languishing in Ohio and Baltimore. On top of that, there are pre-orders of excess hundreds millions—but that's separate.https://twitter.com/BarryCPearson/status/1372167156570406921 …
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Barry Pearson @BarryCPearsonReplying to @zeynep @chrischirpAre they "languishing in US depots"? Or simply pre-ordered but not yet made? I'm UK: we have pre-ordered lots, but they are not "languishing in UK depots". UK will donate the surplus when they are made. Probably to COVAX, to which UK is a major contributor.10 replies 56 retweets 340 likesShow this thread -
I know it's hard to imagine this, after months of shortages. But the numbers are there. US overbooked vaccines—we didn't know which would work. Now we do. The supply of approved ones made *here* will soon exceed our population. Let's let go of ones that won't be approved in time.
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Also, for people asking. The variants are part of the argument for why we should vaccinate globally, as fast as possible, but key reason is because they cause enormous suffering now, and exponential threats are best countered early. From my newsletter: https://zeynep.substack.com/p/ill-take-the-hippie-dippy-wishful …pic.twitter.com/UBhqofozFy
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Let me repeat. These vaccines in our warehouses are not approved for the United States. They will not be approved in time. Dude in my mentions who thinks I should feel stupid because they're used in Georgia? You live in Atlanta, Georgia. They are approved in Georgia, the country.pic.twitter.com/e1CDTXjJOc
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Replying to @zeynep
Important to recite over and over that people in other counties getting the AZ vaccine protects EVERYONE, including Americans, from renewed surges in infections because the variants easily spread across borders. So we need a global vaccination campaign to be safe locally.
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This is not the sole justification for releasing the AZ doses but it is the patriotic, self-interested one, and many people need such justifications to be moved to act for the sake of distant strangers.
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Callously letting infections rip through globally would also provide "protection" for us here—vaccines aren't the only path to immunity—plus increasing evidence multiple variants can & do arise in single individuals treated with antivirals (here).
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Wary of appealing to assumptions that a population is overwhelmingly sociopathic, and doing so based on dubious and incomplete science tbh.
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Replying to @zeynep @MattNoahSmith
With sufficient qualifiers ("it MAY help"), can it be part of a comprehensive message? I am concerned that we are in a hypernationalistic era where helping those in other countries won't resonate. (Protecting essential workers in our own countries is barely gaining traction.)
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That is an uncharitable interpretation of what I said!
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