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    1. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 16 Mar 2021
      Replying to @kakape @apoorva_nyc and

      Yep, as my own piece says it is, of course, better to get rid of the virus but the current problem variants may well have emerged not from population growth but through individual immunopathology and vaccinate globally now is a moral argument that won't shift the variant picture.

      3 replies 3 retweets 19 likes
    2. Dr. Angela Rasmussen‏Verified account @angie_rasmussen 16 Mar 2021
      Replying to @zeynep @kakape and

      Just one thing: the emergence of variants from immunocompromised people is a hypothesis that is a long way from proven, and convergent evolution suggests it might not actually be driving the emergence of variants of concern. Also could be both.

      4 replies 3 retweets 28 likes
    3. Nsikan Akpan, PhD‏Verified account @MoNscience 16 Mar 2021
      Replying to @angie_rasmussen @zeynep and

      To echo others on this thread: Just here to remind that smallpox was eliminated in N. America and Europe more than a decade before the rest of the world...pic.twitter.com/PyocCoDqKo

      1 reply 1 retweet 4 likes
    4. Nsikan Akpan, PhD‏Verified account @MoNscience 16 Mar 2021
      Replying to @MoNscience @angie_rasmussen and

      ...and outside of a handful of small outbreaks, those developed nations remained protected. (Our World In Data has a nice slider map). https://ourworldindata.org/smallpox#number-of-smallpox-cases …pic.twitter.com/GeeYsysPRQ

      2 replies 0 retweets 3 likes
    5. Nsikan Akpan, PhD‏Verified account @MoNscience 16 Mar 2021
      Replying to @MoNscience @angie_rasmussen and

      ...and given the COVID-19 vaccine procurement at the moment, history seems destined to repeat itself with curbing the coronavirus? https://launchandscalefaster.org/COVID-19#Timeline%20of%20COVID%20Vaccine%20Procurement%20Deals …pic.twitter.com/af5bvBH02o

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    6. Nsikan Akpan, PhD‏Verified account @MoNscience 16 Mar 2021
      Replying to @MoNscience @angie_rasmussen and

      While I want to put more faith in the generosity of high-income nations...if those leaders wanted equitable control of the outbreak, they wouldn't have hoarded these doses in the first place.

      2 replies 0 retweets 1 like
    7. Apoorva Mandavilli‏Verified account @apoorva_nyc 16 Mar 2021
      Replying to @MoNscience @angie_rasmussen and

      There is near-universal agreement that they are not motivated by generosity. What this discussion was about is what, if anything, will motivate them to consider other countries' needs.

      3 replies 0 retweets 12 likes
    8. Peter Staley‏Verified account @peterstaley 16 Mar 2021
      Replying to @apoorva_nyc @MoNscience and

      If all else fails, we resort to directly appealing to POTUS with a “your legacy” argument. Azar got a national “ending AIDS” program out of it (with Fauci pushing the design). It now gets bipartisan annual funding.

      1 reply 0 retweets 7 likes
    9. Nsikan Akpan, PhD‏Verified account @MoNscience 16 Mar 2021
      Replying to @peterstaley @apoorva_nyc and

      Biden/Trudeau/Merkel/etc.: "We're acquiring another million-billion doses of COVID-19 vaccine for our citizens." Press: "...but your legacy!" Heck, it couldn't hurt. Count me in!

      1 reply 0 retweets 5 likes
    10. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 16 Mar 2021
      Replying to @MoNscience @peterstaley and

      Agree, in fact, working on something like that to whatever degree words have weight right now, but I can see a drop in interest in anything abroad as vaccination makes progress here. The variant situation makes it urgent, imo, because of what's happening "there" *right now.*

      2 replies 0 retweets 3 likes
      zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 16 Mar 2021
      Replying to @zeynep @MoNscience and

      And I do think the "legacy" arguments with policy folks and goodwill/moral arguments with ordinary folks have a lot more weight than assumed, though as with anything else, policy folk need to be pushed and vague public support channeled.

      12:45 PM - 16 Mar 2021
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        2. Nsikan Akpan, PhD‏Verified account @MoNscience 16 Mar 2021
          Replying to @zeynep @peterstaley and

          Yeah, I want to believe that altruism could be enough incentive. But then I think about climate change and how "do it for our global neighbors" and "do it for the kids" messaging took like 15 years to move the needle...

          1 reply 0 retweets 5 likes
        3. Nsikan Akpan, PhD‏Verified account @MoNscience 16 Mar 2021
          Replying to @MoNscience @zeynep and

          ..and even in that case, the final motivators seemed to be extreme weather events. The world just had its big pandemic event, and we came out the other end with huge disparities in vaccine access...

          1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
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