The boosters for previous variants may stop you from getting sick, but they’re not going to stop you from bringing the variant back into the country after travel. And then infecting immunocompromised/unvaccinated people over here.
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Replying to @apoorva_nyc @zeynep and
Ready to shame the world here along with
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Replying to @gregggonsalves @apoorva_nyc and
That's what it may take, this time, too. As we've seen with HIV, too, it's perfectly plausible for effective drugs to shield a select few for a very, very long time—and the "but it will mutate elsewhere" never become realized as a big enough threat to move the needle.
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Replying to @zeynep @gregggonsalves and
I don’t think that is a proper analogy. In HIV, cART drugs suppress HIV replication by targeting various stages in the viral life cycle. So a large untreated population, which is not exposed to cART drugs, experiences no selective pressure to develop resistance mutations.
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Replying to @jbkrell @gregggonsalves and
The analogy isn't to the type of virus at all, it is to the type of appeals made to ordinary people in wealthy countries.
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Replying to @zeynep @gregggonsalves and
Perhaps we are speaking pass each other. But I think given what we know about coronaviruses, theAbsence of universal global vaccination will actually pose a threat to rich people and rich countries. And therefore unlike HIV the selfish argument works
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Replying to @jbkrell @gregggonsalves and
And I'm merely pointing out that some people back then also thought the selfish HIV argument would work (I heard it a lot at the time!) and it did not really work.Y'all had to push. Is there an example of it working? (Yes we all agree shouldn't have to come down to this).
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I think actually this is not empirically true, the CIA document describing HIV as a security threat changed a lot of people’s footing inside the USG even if that’s not what they said it was about
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Replying to @MMKavanagh @zeynep and
I don’t like it, didn’t at the time, but it was persuasive to several governments
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I guess it can move elite opinion. See that with climate, too. (We all agree let's not be sociopaths isn't the argument anyone prefers). I don't see such arguments moving public opinion in a positive way though: historically, such fears end up with demanding closure/exclusion.
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Right so question is what moves policy though—is it public opinion? I think less than elite opinion on these questions
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Replying to @MMKavanagh @zeynep and
If you look at HIV we moved public opinion along with policy not before
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