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    1. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 10 Mar 2021

      There seems to be some extraordinary sense I keep encountering out there that dangerous virus variants are certain to emerge [unless policy I prefer is followed]. I'm all for vaccinating globally as fast as we can; however "but variants" isn't a response to everything we propose.pic.twitter.com/mdcEZ8NbXZ

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    2. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 10 Mar 2021

      We have existing variants-of-concern (three, specifically) and a few worth watching and many (reported with worry but probably no big deal). One or more may have well risen during chronic infections in *individual* immunocompromised patients treated with plasma.

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    3. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 10 Mar 2021

      Existing variants are concerning. We do need ongoing surveillance to spot and react to new ones (and thankfully UK had extensive genomic surveillance for example). But can we *please* stop referring to them as if they are some mysterious hex certain to smite the unworthy?

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      zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 10 Mar 2021

      (This thread is a reaction to the number of responses I've received to CDC's announcements that fully-vaccinated people can hang out indoors unmasked with a version of "but variants". What is the biological mechanism through which vaccinated interaction engenders "variants"?)

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        1. Maelig‏ @maelig 10 Mar 2021
          Replying to @zeynep

          Immunologist here, wondering the same thing

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        1. Adithya Ramachandran‏ @AdithyaR_YXE 10 Mar 2021
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          I know that fully vaccinated people are going to be shamed for trying to inject some normality into their lives again, and that is so sad. The shaming in this case is not based on science or logic.

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        2. Dottie Luber‏ @DottieLuber 10 Mar 2021
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          The vaccinated may not produce variants, but variants that arise in the unvaccinated *could* defeat the vaccines.

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        3. carnivalist‏ @carnivalist2 10 Mar 2021
          Replying to @DottieLuber @zeynep

          They could also defeat serious disease by causing mild disease and outcompeting existing variants. Nobody knows.

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        2. David Penfold  🌳  🌳  🌳‏ @PenfoldDavid 10 Mar 2021
          Replying to @zeynep

          I guess people are just thinking it will mean more transmission and therefore more risk of mutation. But if I remember correctly there's not exactly an infinite number of surprises SARS-CoV2 can spring on us.

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        3. David Penfold  🌳  🌳  🌳‏ @PenfoldDavid 10 Mar 2021
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          Or maybe some sort of vaccine-envy or straight-up vaccine denialism dressed up as science?

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        1. Matt Boyd‏ @3PSboyd 10 Mar 2021
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          I feel like a lot of this is coming from people who think the vaccines don't affect infection or transmission, just symptoms.

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        2. obiquody‏ @obiquody 10 Mar 2021
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          Variant mutation pools are ostensibly created in CV positive folks and adaptively selected in vaccinated people. Therefore vaccinated people mixing unprotected with unvaccinated at high prevalence is a way to maximize the chances of evolution to escape vaccine induced immunity.

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        1. Will D  🇨🇦 🇺🇸‏ @linkto86 10 Mar 2021
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          I think it's largely consisting of people who want to not get their hopes up too much and then have them be dashed

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