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    1. Ezra Klein‏Verified account @ezraklein 8 Mar 2021

      Ezra Klein Retweeted Isaac Bogoch

      Do any public health experts think these results are wrong, and Scotland made a terrible error approving the AZ vaccine? And if not, are we making a terrible error with every subsequent day we fail to approve it? It seems to me you need to believe one of these things is true.https://twitter.com/BogochIsaac/status/1366387654372306946 …

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      Isaac BogochVerified account @BogochIsaac
      In Scotland, the AstraZeneca vaccine reduced the risk of #COVID19-related hospitalization by **94%** after the first of 2 doses. This is data from 490000 people. *Yet another reminder that the first vaccine available is the best vaccine.* https://bit.ly/3q4ysd0  pic.twitter.com/HtjaHbapcP
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    2. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 8 Mar 2021
      Replying to @ezraklein

      The results are great. But I think there were genuine issues with the ChAdOx1 trial and its data. The vaccine may still be excellent. But look at the damage the confusion did in Germany to public trust/vaccine uptake. (I feel differently about rapid test non-approval).

      4 replies 4 retweets 98 likes
    3. Ezra Klein‏Verified account @ezraklein 8 Mar 2021
      Replying to @zeynep

      Agree on the original trial - My argument here is we now have real world data that should reshape how we’re thinking. I mean, I saw this tweet from you! Do you think the data from Scotland is wrong?

      4 replies 4 retweets 74 likes
      zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 8 Mar 2021
      Replying to @ezraklein

      It’s quite likely the vaccine is good. This is a good looking chart. But it’s still not the Kaplan–Meier curve we get from placebo-controlled trials. Plus, the US doesn’t need a fourth vaccine now given global supply constraints.

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        1. Patrick Thornton‏Verified account @pwthornton 8 Mar 2021
          Replying to @zeynep @ezraklein

          Aren’t we reaching a point where distribution and not supply is our constraint? What would a 4th vaccine get us?

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        1. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 8 Mar 2021
          Replying to @zeynep @ezraklein

          I think letting the US trial finish and provide the clarity/data we don’t have is going to be a positive contribution to this key vaccine, which is very important for the world. It’s what most of the world will get probably.

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        2. Ezra Klein‏Verified account @ezraklein 8 Mar 2021
          Replying to @zeynep

          I’m open to the idea that we don’t need AZ at this point, or should leave it for others. But I think it’s a bit of a different question - that’s not why we’re told it’s not approved.

          10 replies 2 retweets 61 likes
        3. David Piegaro‏ @davidpiegaro 8 Mar 2021
          Replying to @ezraklein @zeynep

          And is the factory running!? https://marginalrevolution.com/marginalrevolution/2021/01/the-astrazeneca-factory-in-baltimore.html … @ATabarrok @tylercowen

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        2. Josh You‏ @justjoshinyou13 8 Mar 2021
          Replying to @zeynep @ezraklein

          There's a factory in Baltimore that's either making the AZ vaccine or has the capacity to make it. Last I've heard is that they aren't being exported; I'm not sure what the legal barrier is. Those vaccines should be used, one way or the other.

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        3. Stephen Judkins‏ @stephenjudkins 8 Mar 2021
          Replying to @justjoshinyou13 @zeynep @ezraklein

          As far as I know, the facilities that can make the AZ vaccine can be used to produce the (apparently superior) J&J vaccine as well. We should talk about doing that instead.

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        2. Zoë McLaren, PhD‏ @ZoeMcLaren 8 Mar 2021
          Replying to @zeynep @ezraklein

          Our initial objective was a vaccine that was 50% effective so it's extremely likely that AZ passes that bar. But their study didn't meet standards for evidence on this and it makes sense for the FDA not to approve it yet.

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        3. Mark Meckstroth‏ @Cincydude55 8 Mar 2021
          Replying to @ZoeMcLaren @zeynep @ezraklein

          Further, I don’t believe AstraZeneca has even applied for approval yet.

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        1. Watson Ladd‏ @WatsonLadd 9 Mar 2021
          Replying to @zeynep @ezraklein

          It's likely to save lives means stick it in my deltoids stat!

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