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    1. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 8 Mar 2021

      Yeay! CDC guidelines now say not just that vaccinated people can meet with other vaccinated people without masks, but that they can do so with other *unvaccinated* individuals, too, as long as they are low-risk (i.e. healthy adults or grandchildren!) and from one other household.pic.twitter.com/OQkwExzEGS

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    2. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 8 Mar 2021

      zeynep tufekci Retweeted Robin Quon

      Don't know. My local school district is set to open except it's going to stay closed a whole day of the week for "deep cleaning". Makes no sense. Open with the right mitigations, fine. Waste tons of money and a whole day for hygiene theater? Not so fine.https://twitter.com/Robin_Quon/status/1368965239618830342 …

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      Robin Quon @Robin_Quon
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      When is the @cdc going to proclaim that there is a low risk of getting COVID from touching stuff so American businesses can save $Billions by not engaging in evidence-free sanitation theater? https://www.thelancet.com/journals/laninf/article/PIIS1473-30992030678-2/fulltext …
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    3. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 8 Mar 2021

      zeynep tufekci Retweeted Wanting better

      To keep people's network from expanding too much, too quickly. US still has relatively high levels of infection. Coming down fast, but it's there. Keep indoor/unmasked encounters limited for now, but vaccinated can feel safer with family/close friends.https://twitter.com/cschneider8224/status/1368969664617795586 …

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      Wanting better @cschneider8224
      Replying to @zeynep
      I totally appreciate the CDC guidance because I do think that people's primary concern is seeing family and close friends. Still, putting those numbers (one other household) always feels a bit arbitrary. Like the UK's "3 household" limit during xmas. I'd rather know the dynamic
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    4. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 8 Mar 2021

      Lemme add from my last article. I think vaccinated people should keep up *public* precautions not because I think they are still at high risk, but because we shouldn't have two classes of people while there's community spread/people without vaccine access. https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2021/02/how-public-health-messaging-backfired/618147/ …pic.twitter.com/i7wJkPr3La

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    5. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 8 Mar 2021

      The ramp down (and that's what it is) from the pandemic has the same sociological issue as ramp-up. Even if we had widespread tests & only symptomatic transmission, it was totally unreasonable for the CDC/WHO to ask "only the sick" to wear a mask last year. Now it's the reverse.

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    6. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 8 Mar 2021

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      Yes. Being vaccinated is not "false sense of security" because it is genuine risk reduction. Transmission risks are clearly, lower, too—not zero but substantially lower. Still, we shouldn't shift public behavior—yet—because society can't work like that.https://twitter.com/humanprovince/status/1368987238047039494 …

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      It's refreshing to hear someone be honest about this for once. This is an actual argument for not going back to normal after you're vaccinated. The "well maybe it's still dangerous" line just isn't convincing to anyone. https://twitter.com/zeynep/status/1368979493239599110 …
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    7. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 8 Mar 2021

      More YEAY! CDC explicitly links post-vaccine incentives & uptake: "Maintaining a requirement to continue all prevention measures after vaccination may disincentivize vaccine uptake". People want to get vaccinated "to return to more normal life, feeling safe around other people."pic.twitter.com/CpB75jz4bt

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      zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 8 Mar 2021

      Such music to my ears to see CDC say all this explicitly. "In summary, relaxing certain prevention measures for fully vaccinated persons may be a powerful motivator for vaccination, and thus should be an important goal of the U.S. vaccination program." YES https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/more/fully-vaccinated-people.html …pic.twitter.com/30aO98ac7X

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        1. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 8 Mar 2021

          zeynep tufekci Retweeted zeynep tufekci

          It's just excellent to see the CDC not just expand the positive guidelines for the vaccinated, but explicitly acknowledge that not doing so may "disincentivize vaccine uptake" especially as it is—indeed—the leading motivation many cite (as the CDC notes!)https://twitter.com/zeynep/status/1359605867881127936 …

          zeynep tufekci added,

          zeynep tufekciVerified account @zeynep
          I'd seen this in another poll, too. Among those most motivated to get the vaccine? Reason number one and two is they believe vaccine will protect *others*. Resuming normal life as important as not getting COVID. (Wish they had asked this to the hesitant!). https://apnorc.org/projects/safety-concerns-remain-main-driver-of-vaccine-hesitancy/ … pic.twitter.com/mf0zTM12Em
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        1. Eva Basilion‏ @EBasilion 8 Mar 2021
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          Whether it is a motivator is neither here nor there. It should first and foremost be safe.

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        1. Urgentoblogue  ⛵‏ @EmergencyBlog 8 Mar 2021
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          @haldol

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        1.  😷 Gardener Sheryl  🥋‏ @sajeffe 8 Mar 2021
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          And then the personal liberty yokels start their nonsense. Good luck us! I'm ready to start seeing people in the flesh.

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        2. El Justiciero‏ @KeithPillers 8 Mar 2021
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          Sorry this content is not available on Thread Reader 😕 It has been removed by the author. 🤖

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        1. Abraar Karan‏Verified account @AbraarKaran 9 Mar 2021
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          👏🏼👏🏼

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        1. Lelia‏ @lelia_glass 9 Mar 2021
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          I thought that the removal of restrictions should have been a goal of the vaccine just as preventing disease was. Not just a side benefit but one of the main goals. Wasn’t that one of the main reasons we wanted a vax - not just to prevent disease but also to bring back normalcy?

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        2. Estarianne, BS, MA, A.N.T.I.F.A.  👩🏼‍💻‏ @estarianne 8 Mar 2021
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          They assume the most at risk people are vaccinated first, which in many families is not the case.

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        3. Estarianne, BS, MA, A.N.T.I.F.A.  👩🏼‍💻‏ @estarianne 8 Mar 2021
          Replying to @estarianne @zeynep

          And they don't explicitly say that they don't *know* what the risk is of vaccinated low risk people carrying virus to high risk loved ones. They know it's less than unvaccinated people but they don't know whether it's negligible or not.

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