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Complex systems, wicked problems. Society, technology, science and more. @UNC professor. @NYTimes columnist. My newsletter is @insight: http://www.theinsight.org 

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    1. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 26 Feb 2021

      Do note there's no contradiction between keeping up public precautions—just the sociology of it: not good to have two classes of people for public behavior—while simultaneously expanding private behavior. If anything, I expect these to support each other. https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2021/02/how-public-health-messaging-backfired/618147/ …pic.twitter.com/fkCBW68AeX

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    2. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 26 Feb 2021

      zeynep tufekci Retweeted Bill

      Presymptomatic transmission & atypical clinical presentation. This was, indeed, much like SARS (overdispersed, aerosols important) *except* with SARS, fever & infectiousness overlapped. That info is what convinced me in January of 2020 we'd get a pandemic.https://twitter.com/BillFoto3/status/1365411548068511749 …

      zeynep tufekci added,

      Bill @BillFoto3
      Replying to @BillFoto3 @zeynep @MC_of_A
      Prior knowledge or educated assumptions, especially by April 2020, seemed to be almost entirely accurate. I don't think I've read a single article where one of the assumptions scientists and health officials made based on prior knowledge was just flat wrong, but I may be mistaken
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    3. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 27 Feb 2021

      zeynep tufekci Retweeted Lauren Pelley

      Yes, please. Should have done this since last spring.https://twitter.com/LaurenPelley/status/1365655101914968068 …

      zeynep tufekci added,

      Lauren PelleyVerified account @LaurenPelley
      “If you gave people that opportunity to do things appropriately outside, how many cases would you then save from indoor activity?" asks @zchagla. @adamsmiller explores why it may be time to allow lower-risk outdoor gatherings to ward off pandemic fatigue: https://www.cbc.ca/news/health/coronavirus-risk-canada-weather-1.5930135 …
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    4. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 27 Feb 2021

      A fascinating historical point on how the US public health authorities dragged their feet on providing sterile needles/exchanges during the HIV pandemic because "we don't know" if it works. Need to reread that history with a new perspective. Recs welcome. https://zeynep.substack.com/p/pandemic-lessons-for-the-future-open/comments …pic.twitter.com/eWGI1q4ntJ

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    5. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 27 Feb 2021

      zeynep tufekci Retweeted Gregg Gonsalves

      It's 2021—and lawmakers are still trying to ban needle-exchanges.🤬This is why we must learn from the mistakes of past & current pandemics (I'm the child of an addict who essentially died from it—I don't have naive or simplistic thoughts about addiction).https://twitter.com/gregggonsalves/status/1365711828182065152 …

      zeynep tufekci added,

      Gregg GonsalvesVerified account @gregggonsalves
      Replying to @zeynep
      Well @zeynep sadly we are not done with those struggles. West Virginia about to ban needle exchange despite HIV outbreaks in the state. It’s a scandal, it’s an outrage that we’re still fighting this shit. https://mountainstatespotlight.org/2021/02/21/morgantown-shows-how-syringe-exchanges-save-lives-but-a-bill-before-the-west-virginia-legislature-would-outlaw-them/ …
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    6. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 27 Feb 2021

      zeynep tufekci Retweeted zeynep tufekci

      I want to put this out here (because the article is long and I don't expect everyone to read it). I would not relax any indoor rules right now—if anything, I think they can be more strict (with support for those who have to work indoors/remain closed).https://twitter.com/zeynep/status/1365717999974514689 …

      zeynep tufekci added,

      zeynep tufekciVerified account @zeynep
      Replying to @zeynep @RRcandid @ashishkjha
      So my wish is for the CDC to tell us: guidelines/risk comparisons for: private behavior among vaccinated people and private behavior for vaccinated people around unvaccinated people *and* distinguish outdoor/indoor rules. Public NPIs for indoor? I'd make them *more* strict now.😬
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    7. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 27 Feb 2021

      Vaccines will/should allow expanded private behaviors for the vaccinated and we should be more chill and encouraging of outdoors is not only compatible with, is supportive of the idea that we should be MORE *on guard* indoors while we vaccinate and outrun the variants spreading.pic.twitter.com/HK677CbBZj

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    8. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 27 Feb 2021

      Is this all still relevant? Yes. London News today: "Crowds flock to parks and beaches despite Covid-19 warning from top scientists." Look at the pics! (Also UK had a "eat out to help out" plan subsidizing INDOOR dining—no take-out allowed—they may reportedly bring back soon).pic.twitter.com/vWAtAUhctE

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    9. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 27 Feb 2021

      zeynep tufekci Retweeted Richard Engel

      One year ago today. I’m not blaming him—it is true, that was the overwhelming message. We can and should stop being behind transitions and start acting/adjusting ahead of or with them. Matters for the endgame, too.https://twitter.com/RichardEngel/status/1232770729290035202 …

      zeynep tufekci added,

      Richard EngelVerified account @RichardEngel
      Don’t panic. Doctors/ virologists I’m speaking to say 98% of people will be fine, even if they get Covid-19. They expect it will go around the world, but that most people who get it will be a little sick, then recover. The danger is to vulnerable people. Hospitals/ old age homes.
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    10. Eric Black‏ @eric_black3 27 Feb 2021
      Replying to @zeynep

      His evaluation turned out to be mostly correct, yes?

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      zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 27 Feb 2021
      Replying to @eric_black3

      Except a 2% fatality rate *is* a huge threat to everything—and it would have been higher if we hadn’t taken drastic measures. That would have been... 6 million just for the US alone.

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        2. Eric Black‏ @eric_black3 27 Feb 2021
          Replying to @zeynep

          Yup, the "don't panic" advice doesn't work for the reason you explained.

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        3. Adithya Ramachandran‏ @AdithyaR_YXE 27 Feb 2021
          Replying to @eric_black3 @zeynep

          Plus the 10% or so of patients who get some form of long COVID.

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        1. Yesferatu In My Back Yard 🌐 🌮 🚚 🍦 🕶 💉 💉‏ @Mateo_in_ATX 27 Feb 2021
          Replying to @zeynep @eric_black3

          Right - he just didn’t understand or unoderplayed the horror of that math.

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        2. Rachel Manzel‏ @rmanzel843391 27 Feb 2021
          Replying to @zeynep @eric_black3

          I think our responses have a muted effect at best. It looks to me like there is an older strain of covid. It was here maybe 19. It has a longer mutation sequence and will be background forbade long time. There is a very short mutation sequence that hit ny and albany ga

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        3. Rachel Manzel‏ @rmanzel843391 27 Feb 2021
          Replying to @rmanzel843391 @zeynep @eric_black3

          Older strain was here Pensacola fl may 2019

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        1. Seth Parker‏ @seth_parker 28 Feb 2021
          Replying to @zeynep @eric_black3

          It's true that it is a massive public health crisis, but the advice for the INDIVIDUAL not panic is sound, no? Most people that took COVID seriously thought of it as a deathly peril on the individual level, and that was a pretty grave error which caused a lot of the problems.

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