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Complex systems, wicked problems. Society, technology, science and more. @UNC professor. @NYTimes columnist. My newsletter is @insight: http://www.theinsight.org 

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    1. Adam Kucharski‏Verified account @AdamJKucharski 27 Feb 2021

      It's strange to see someone point to South Korea as an example of how it's possible to have a 'zero COVID' approach without closed borders/high cooperation, yet also criticise them for not having a 'zero COVID' approach. 1/pic.twitter.com/f6oyRrna16

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    2. Adam Kucharski‏Verified account @AdamJKucharski 27 Feb 2021

      There are lots of other examples of this hindsight-y approach of listing a country as a successful example of a given strategy, then later pivoting to claim they aren't actually a good example of this strategy, without any reflection on this pivot in thinking. 2/

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    3. Adam Kucharski‏Verified account @AdamJKucharski 27 Feb 2021

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      Finally, a reminder that if discussing COVID response in Taiwan, South Korea, Singapore, Hong Kong, worth acknowledging their innovative (and sometimes controversial) use of technology: https://twitter.com/AdamJKucharski/status/1346829888943218688?s=20 … 3/3

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      Adam KucharskiVerified account @AdamJKucharski
      Notable that Taiwan highlight importance of technology/tracking in their response. More here: https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2762689 … pic.twitter.com/hj12Jre4Yl
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      zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 27 Feb 2021
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      Yeah. They did not do "bluetooth only/only as allowed by Apple/Google/voluntary app/within six feet/fifteen minutes/you decide what to do" whatsoever, kind of a big deal difference. Not saying it's portable, or advisable necessarily as that's a big question, but huge difference.

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        2. Adam Kucharski‏Verified account @AdamJKucharski 27 Feb 2021
          Replying to @zeynep

          Exactly. Need to consider everything from surveillance legislation put in place pre-COVID to the centralisation of data and subsequent enforcement of measures...

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        3. Brent Carpenter‏ @BrentCa24718741 27 Feb 2021
          Replying to @AdamJKucharski @zeynep

          Surely some innovative approaches in East Asian countries. But no matter what kind of policy was adopted results were good. But Cambodia did not succeed because of its great public health infrastructure — there are unknowns — research needed to explain disparity with the West.

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