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    zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 24 Feb 2021

    zeynep tufekci Retweeted Eric Topol

    This is really important. Stuff getting publicized *without a paper* and without sufficient time for many scientists to look at, digest, comment and contextualize can lead to terrible outcomes—needlessly scaring people. We saw that happen with widely misreported studies before.https://twitter.com/EricTopol/status/1364769339434409984 …

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    Eric TopolVerified account @EricTopol
    Why are academic groups forwarding "preprints" that are not posted directly to the media without the biomedical community having a chance to review? Isn't a preprint enough? is this a new pre-pre-print trend? Concerning.
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      2. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 24 Feb 2021

        It’s not about formal peer review per se. It’s just that many eyes are always better than a few, even if those few are excellent because they’re still a few, and a bit of time is better than rushing unless there’s something truly urgent that can’t wait another day or two.

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      3. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 24 Feb 2021

        zeynep tufekci Retweeted Nathan Grubaugh

        What’s the hurry? I am constantly fielding inquiries from people who are losing hope—I mean this, losing hope and suffering greatly—after reading such stories. Is it justified? Who knows without a paper? Just put the draft paper somewhere and let a couple of days pass.https://twitter.com/NathanGrubaugh/status/1364782285954899968 …

        zeynep tufekci added,

        Nathan Grubaugh @NathanGrubaugh
        This wasn't even a "pre-print" - I was asked to provide comment on someone's draft manuscript that still had tracked changes and didn't include the figures. Based on this, the NYT wrote a story. This is an absolute mess. https://twitter.com/EricTopol/status/1364769339434409984 …
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      4. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 25 Feb 2021

        zeynep tufekci Retweeted Lauring Lab

        This, too. The preprint needs to be online *before* the high-profile story goes public so that the scientific community has a chance to digest/respond. It's not a long process—people respond quickly. The consequences otherwise are real—and not healthy.https://twitter.com/LauringLab/status/1364915391152205824 …

        zeynep tufekci added,

        Lauring Lab @LauringLab
        Science is exciting. You want to share your data with the world. If your first inclination is to issue a press release - as opposed to posting a preprint or even just your data/analysis - ask yourself why you made that choice. If the analysis is of data others shared, ask again.
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      5. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 25 Feb 2021

        Otherwise, story goes out with too few people who see paper. Those few may be excellent, but nobody is infallible. A few is not enough. We've seen this happen. Not enough time to comment->few experts say something->big story->oops there was an issue->no way to undo public impact.

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      6. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 25 Feb 2021

        It's a pandemic & peer review has been shortened or even being skipped. That's fine if done responsibly. There's a robust & real preprint & post-peer review process going on. It's great, actually. But huge finding to big news story with no chance to digest/respond? That's not it.

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      7. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 25 Feb 2021

        zeynep tufekci Retweeted Jay Varma

        Here's a NYC public health official pleading against "pathogen porn"—big media story gets published without letting the scientific community have even one day to digest/respond to a preprint. Happened too many times throughout last year to great harm.https://twitter.com/DrJayVarma/status/1364895908895354882 …

        zeynep tufekci added,

        Jay Varma @DrJayVarma
        Replying to @EricTopol
        Plea to academics: please review high impact studies w/govt health depts before marketing it to media. We’re left to decipher science from journalist’s abstract while fielding calls from electeds, public, media how this changes policy. Pathogen porn isn’t helping public health.
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      2. Melanopolis  💉 💪🏼‏ @melanied333 24 Feb 2021
        Replying to @zeynep

        I’m thinking specifically of the study out of Europe (forget which country) that showed how dangerous it was to have a biker or a runner pass you if they had covid. That whole thing terrified us for months. Turned out to be bunk.

        1 reply 0 retweets 25 likes
      3. Catherine McMullen‏ @allophillia 24 Feb 2021
        Replying to @melanied333 @zeynep

        That's the one I had in mind too. They just had an animation at one point...

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      2. Alex Merz‏ @Merz 24 Feb 2021
        Replying to @zeynep

        Agreed. Reporters' jobs are to extract information. The failure here is by researchers who are sharing data with reporters before they're sharing it with the community of peers.

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